soulful house beats ?

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distantpeople
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soulful house beats ?

Post by distantpeople » Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:12 pm

can any one recommend me some solid sample packs of drum hits i can construct my own beats with rather than use loops from other people

i want the control over my beats so i can strip them down when i want and layer in more when needed

DP

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Post by Rogue Scrunt » Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:21 pm

Check out Battery3
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D DAS
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Post by D DAS » Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:38 pm

battery three for sure, you will have a life time of beats.

if you just want sample CD's, most CD's will have some loops on them but Big Fish Audio.com would be a good place to start, they have a lot of CD's just for house.

d~

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Post by jb61264 » Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:57 pm

if you want to buy sample CD's you should check out audiomidi.com...they seem to have really good prices (at least for the two items I've purchased from them)
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distantpeople
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Post by distantpeople » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:48 am

ok well ive tried out battery 2, so you would rather use this than impulse ?

ive got stacks of sample cds but they just never seem to sound brilliant maybe its the samples i choose that dont work together ??

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Post by Rogue Scrunt » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:30 pm

with battery it is all about how the kits are programed.

what are you after? realism? electronic styles?
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Post by andrewbrewer » Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:19 am

good house beats are a little difficult. it's hard to start with a raw kit and instantly have a great beat. it's worth-while to put some hard work into sequencing the beat ... all sorts of tricks here -- record the beat live w/ a midi keyboard, then quantize but at maybe 95-98% ... find a good swing setting ... mess with velocity on some of your drum hits ... nudge a beat here or there ... the list goes on and on. getting the sequence to work is just part of the challenge.

next, just the sound of the beat. say you are using impulse ... mess with the filter, pan, volume etc. of the drums until they fit together.
you might want to route some of the drums to their own effect-track ... maybe put a flange on the hi-hat, or a compressor or saturator on the bass drum, or a delay on the snare ... all of this is a good bit of work, but it pays off.

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Post by sweetjesus » Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:57 am

my tip is to get some good grooves goin

then spice it up with a live loop with a lot of the lows cut off and maybe a gate or clip envelope or something on it, keep the level low and it should give it more swing and life

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Post by DeadlyKungFu » Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:04 am

cool topic, what kills me is that kick that sounds like a stick of stick of dynamite in a down pillow with the hi hat just ahead of the 'and', closing just right, I could (most of us have) listen to that kick/hi hat combo for days.

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find some old funk/soul records, sync it up, hit play and groove out. love the funky house choonz.

distantpeople
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Post by distantpeople » Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:55 pm

ok some good suggestions here, i guess i need quality samples to start with i have all the sample cds around at the moment for house,
some are of course better than others,

id like to add some swing to the beat but live isnt really the best programme for adding swing to drums is it ?
i normally use my midi keyboard then move em about with quantize off

like the idea of using a live loop with the lows cut from it, whats best a filter or eq ?? i want to blend the sounds nicely so you cant really tell theres a little loop in there, should i use filters or eqs for high pass and low pass cuts ?

i read all the time about using shelfing eqs etc ??

dp

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