padKontrol CC changes — light issue

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padKontrol CC changes — light issue

Post by phirewall » Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:58 am

When pads are set to send CC changes, the pad blinks on momentarily.

I would like the pad to turn on when hit, and stay lit until it is hit again, so I have some visual feedback as to what loop is playing (besides the computer screen).

Has anyone tried this?

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Post by phirewall » Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:18 am

anybody?

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Post by tylenol » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:30 am

phirewall wrote:anybody?
I only just got a padkontrol recently and haven't had much time to play with it, so I haven't had a chance to figure this out. I do have this thread bookmarked, which might have the answer in it. It seems like it might not really be possible without some work in max or something, but there might be more recent info on this elsewhere.

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Post by SUPERBANANBOMB » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:02 pm

To the best of my knowledge, you can't do that.

The lights are pretty much non-programmable. I think they were mostly an afterthough when designing the PK. Just select the ripple light effect and roll with it! :D
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Post by phirewall » Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:00 pm

Thanks for the replies...

I got a sysex list from Korg..
from what I can tell it IS possible in native mode, but will require some hacking on the software side. I just have to figure out now how to get Midi-Ox or something of the sort to bounce a sysex message back to padKontrol every time a pad is hit.

I'm surprised no one has written a hack for this yet.. as popular as the DM2MIDI software is I would think people would jump on the chance to do similar things with a more professional controller.

Maybe Korg will come around and release a firmware update..

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Post by Machinate » Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:53 pm

phirewall wrote:Thanks for the replies...

I got a sysex list from Korg..
from what I can tell it IS possible in native mode, but will require some hacking on the software side. I just have to figure out now how to get Midi-Ox or something of the sort to bounce a sysex message back to padKontrol every time a pad is hit.

I'm surprised no one has written a hack for this yet..
I got that sysex list a few months ago too... I have been able to send messages to it, making it enter Native Mode, but after that I am unable to get information out of it after that - I believe you have to tell the PadKontrol to not only enter Native Mode, but also to start transmitting sysex after that.

I have officially given up now - I suck at sysex, and I can get more milage out of doing other gadgets instead.

BUT I am willing to test and help out whenever.
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Re: padKontrol CC changes — light issue

Post by M. Bréqs » Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:55 pm

phirewall wrote:When pads are set to send CC changes, the pad blinks on momentarily.

I would like the pad to turn on when hit, and stay lit until it is hit again, so I have some visual feedback as to what loop is playing (besides the computer screen).

Has anyone tried this?
Unfortunately, Korg really dropped the ball on the visual feedback possibilities in the PadKontrol. Those lights are only slightly more useful than absolutely useless.

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Post by tylenol » Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:13 pm

Machinate wrote: BUT I am willing to test and help out whenever.
Me too -- very interested to know if you come up with something working.

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Post by SUPERBANANBOMB » Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:15 pm

The lights are just an afterthought, IMO.

I don't care though; it still looks sexy in the dark. :]
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Re: padKontrol CC changes — light issue

Post by Machinate » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:19 pm

M. Bréqs wrote:
phirewall wrote:When pads are set to send CC changes, the pad blinks on momentarily.

I would like the pad to turn on when hit, and stay lit until it is hit again, so I have some visual feedback as to what loop is playing (besides the computer screen).

Has anyone tried this?
Unfortunately, Korg really dropped the ball on the visual feedback possibilities in the PadKontrol. Those lights are only slightly more useful than absolutely useless.
Not quite - according to the documentation there is full access to all parameters from hosts using Native Mode - even the LED display can be controlled remotely (scrolling text?) and the encoder will send information too. It's just a matter of hacking this properly. Urgh. I wish we had some sysex-junkies among us. I'd be willing to set up the appropriate software once I hear the first guy getting info while in Native Mode. Who knows, maybe my unit is just broken... :-|
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Post by bigbadotis » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:38 pm

I'd be willing to give this a try. although I'm not a sysex expert, I've done some stuff in the past with it.

send me the spec sheet. I've -really- wanted the ability to have my padKontrol turn a light on or off to indicate the status of an effect ever since I got it.

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Post by Machinate » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:44 pm

Sent. If anyone else would like the information, please email me at:
a [[at]] thecovertoperators.com.

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Post by phirewall » Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:57 pm

Bump.

If anyone gets this working reliably, I'm sure I'm not the only one that would pay to have this functionality. Yes, Korg could quit dicking around and release a firmware update but this obviously isn't a priority for them.

If anyone else is down we should pool our $$ resources to convince a good sysex head to help out.

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Post by Spiralgroove » Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:00 pm

when i loop something and trigger it on my pK it blinks everytime it loops
doesnt yours?
staying on would be nice though...

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Post by Spiralgroove » Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:10 pm

the "Switch/Type" function "polarity" doesnt change it? (UMp20)

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