padKontrol CC changes — light issue

phirewall · Post by **phirewall** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:40 pm

Spiralgroove wrote:when i loop something and trigger it on my pK it blinks everytime it loops
doesnt yours?
staying on would be nice though...

Yes the pads briefly blink when they receive a note. I've gotten the workaround that was posted here working so that the corresponding pad blinks continuously as a clip is playing, but this is less than ideal.

Spiralgroove wrote:the "Switch/Type" function "polarity" doesnt change it? (UMp20)

Nope. I assumed it would, as did many others.

Spiralgroove · Post by **Spiralgroove** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:43 pm

lame
they should do a firmware update

Contra · Post by **Contra** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:40 pm

have they done an update yet?

M. Bréqs · Post by **M. Bréqs** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:32 am

Contra wrote:have they done an update yet?

Not in the five hours that passed between Spiralgroove's post and yours...

phirewall · Post by **phirewall** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:07 pm

M. Bréqs wrote:
Contra wrote:have they done an update yet?
Not in the five hours that passed between Spiralgroove's post and yours...

how about now?

mike holiday · Post by **mike holiday** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:47 pm

yeah the lights bum me too

M. Bréqs · Post by **M. Bréqs** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:03 pm

I've sent an email to Korg with a link to this forum. Those lights have so much potential, if we could only program them a bit...

Imagine: Light on for a playing clip (if the pad is mapped to a specific cell in the session view)

Light on / off for mute / unmute

Light blinking for record armed in any particular channel

I mean, there's a lot of possibilities beyond pretty patterns when you ignore the machine.

There's a lot of discussion on this forum about the different pad controllers; Trigger finger, Akai MPD 16, MPD 24, and the Pad Kontrol... With functional (and programmable) lights, the Korg Pad Kontrol would dominate hands down.

As it is, Korg's market share is being dilluted by other competitors (M-Audio and Akai). Korg could sew up the Ableton market niche (and possibly other performance oriented software) easily with a single OS update.

mrweasel · Post by **mrweasel** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:27 pm

Ableton should also fix one thing:

MIDI FEEDBACK FOR CLIPS BEING TURNED ON AND OFF

I don't think this is possible yet, which is problematic for midi controller manufacturers (Faderfox or Korg PadKontrol for Example).
Indeed, it's all good if Ableton sends a midi note off message when you click on a clip to stop it, but if it doesn't, the light on your midi controller stays on (whereas it should be off)

Do you know what I mean to say to you?

M. Bréqs · Post by **M. Bréqs** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:37 am

mrweasel wrote:Ableton should also fix one thing:

MIDI FEEDBACK FOR CLIPS BEING TURNED ON AND OFF

I don't think this is possible yet, which is problematic for midi controller manufacturers (Faderfox or Korg PadKontrol for Example).
Indeed, it's all good if Ableton sends a midi note off message when you click on a clip to stop it, but if it doesn't, the light on your midi controller stays on (whereas it should be off)

Do you know what I mean to say to you?

...got it. Though with either mackiecontrol or the Remote Automap, there's bidirectional info exchange between the software and the controller, so it should be possible...

mrweasel · Post by **mrweasel** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:20 am

Even for clips being triggered on and off.
im not sure about that one

LP · Post by LP » Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:51 pm

Oh I sure hope somebody devises a ligth hack, or that Korg picks up the slack!

I really like my pad Kontrol, but with programmable lights, it would enter a new realm of usefulness. I'd probably try performing with my laptop offstage, or at least hidden, with just the pad Kontrol as my interface, as it would add a new realm of instrumental conciousness.

Please Korg....

bandbajao · Post by **bandbajao** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:08 pm

mrweasel wrote:Even for clips being triggered on and off.
im not sure about that one

M. Breqs is right. I've got this working. Set up your padK for MC emulation, and when you use the pads that are used as the 4 directional/arrow keys for navigation, the Trigger Clip pad blinks when you scroll through a slot that contains a clip.

phirewall · Post by **phirewall** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:33 pm

This method WORKS.. however its still a workaround hack and I find the blinking annoying:

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... l+solution

I'm also not comfortable with the flood of MIDI data it creates, but it does illustrate the two-way communication that is possible between the pK and Live.

phirewall · Post by **phirewall** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:41 pm

Check the video here for a demonstration of what happens when the pK receives a MIDI note on:

http://www.yayhooray.com/thread/97013/Sweet-Hack

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