Could you live without vintage warmer?

DJ VAKIS · Post by **DJ VAKIS** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:17 am

Yes i can live with out it.Cos i don't have

polyslax · Post by **polyslax** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:18 am

I rarely use it. If I do, it's on a bass or drum track, never on the master out.

krank · Post by **krank** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:01 pm

eyeknow wrote:not only is the latency too high.....they did not improve it at all in the newest version.....and that version has lost it's "mojo" imo.

Actually, now that I think about it........I'm still pissed I can't use the "real" VW on my mac

New version has lost its mojo?

scientist · Post by **scientist** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:00 pm

krank wrote:
eyeknow wrote:not only is the latency too high.....they did not improve it at all in the newest version.....and that version has lost it's "mojo" imo.

Actually, now that I think about it........I'm still pissed I can't use the "real" VW on my mac
New version has lost its mojo?

yeah, the mojo button is gone. wtf? but actually that's almost true...they've added a few features and i think one in particular, a brick wall on/off button, has caused vw to lose some of its unique style. actually, i'm not really sure of that because its so buggy i can't even tell if what i'm hearing is actually what they planned for. right now its a mess...

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:59 pm

UAD-1 Fairchild compressor folloed by the Pultec EQ!

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:44 pm

Blockfish AU always worked nice for me...

/Paws, ancient

R.J.Dubya · Post by **R.J.Dubya** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:22 pm

noisetonepause wrote:Blockfish AU always worked nice for me...

/Paws, ancient

Man do I miss blockfish. Used it all the time before I macbooked myself.

Shame about VW2, I'm really in love with the saturation/compression in addictive drums, which they thank PSP for, so I was hoping to get VW when it went UB, but now I don't know.

Anyone use or tried Blues tubes analog trackbox? I'm demoing it right now and it's not bad at all. Nice eq and I like the tube drive. Seems like it might be a good alternative to vintage warmer.

M. Bréqs · Post by **M. Bréqs** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:55 pm

rbmonosylabik wrote:
Thinktanx wrote:
M. Bréqs wrote: Word on that. I've been very impressed with that combo too, and that's coming from a former Vintage Warmer user. It's not as good as the multiband Vintage warmer (as it occasionally ducks the hi freqs) but it sounds sweet regardless.
Any general settings you guys like for the Saturator + CompII combo. I realize it is different for different occasions. Just curious where you guys start, particularly with regards to the Saturator.
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54296

there's a link to the limiter I made using those two

+1 on rbmonosylabik's settings. I just tamed the range of the maro mapping so that if I grab a knob I won't end up with +36 db on the distortion.

KInetic · Post by **KInetic** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:20 pm

After using VW on my master for quite some time, I was kinda surprised when I decided to use Kjaerhus´s Golden Audio Chanel-1 (GAC-1) on my master out, and found that, with just a very slight tweak of the´Master Mix´ preset, I achieved much more pleasing results than I ever did with VW. It´s just a channel strip, supposedly, but it worked so well on the master channel, and the fact it has 0 latency means I´m also using it when DJ´ing out.

For Cakealk Sonar users. it´s the same plugin as Vintage Chanel-64, but with a different GUI.

Now I just find VW too harsh, brittle and rumble-y. And let´s not talk about VW2, which I think is a clusterf***, I only seem to achieve a similar sound to the previous VW by turning on FAT mode, but that uses too much CPU...it´s like they´re selling you the same thing but actually made it sound worse with the same settings as before in order to make you think it has gotten any better because of having that new FAT mode.

R.J.Dubya · Post by **R.J.Dubya** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:03 am

M. Bréqs wrote:
rbmonosylabik wrote:
Thinktanx wrote: Any general settings you guys like for the Saturator + CompII combo. I realize it is different for different occasions. Just curious where you guys start, particularly with regards to the Saturator.
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54296

there's a link to the limiter I made using those two
+1 on rbmonosylabik's settings. I just tamed the range of the maro mapping so that if I grab a knob I won't end up with +36 db on the distortion.

Why does everyone always talk about compressor II, and how that plus saturator gives a VW type sound? Compressor I with saturator is way closer IMHO.

I just spend hours AB'ing different channel strip type plugs and compressors, and rb's rack isn't bad, but if you replace compressor II with compressor I, you get much closer to that sought after sound I think, as Comp I has more character.

I'm still liking blue tubes analog trackbox the best though I think.

rjw

M. Bréqs · Post by **M. Bréqs** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:09 am

R.J.Dubya wrote:
Why does everyone always talk about compressor II, and how that plus saturator gives a VW type sound? Compressor I with saturator is way closer IMHO.

I just spend hours AB'ing different channel strip type plugs and compressors, and rb's rack isn't bad, but if you replace compressor II with compressor I, you get much closer to that sought after sound I think, as Comp I has more character.

I'm still liking blue tubes analog trackbox the best though I think.

rjw

I guess I'll give it a shot....

simpleton · Post by **simpleton** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:19 am

KInetic wrote:For Cakewalk Sonar users. it´s the same plugin as Vintage Chanel-64, but with a different GUI.

I use the VC 64 but some have described the GUI as "a Klingon teenager's car radio."

krank · Post by **krank** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:19 am

When comparing various limiters, compressors etc., do you remember to RMS-match?

I found that doing so, there was little difference between VW, Saturator+EQ, or a freeware limiter+EQ. Granted, it did seem to sound slightly better with some settings, but on the other hand it's kind of fiddly.