side chaining

Aamos · Post by **Aamos** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:58 am

hey guys. what is the standard with side chaining. i understand it now. and it is. cool. but when i listnen to a song i was wandering....do they use just two tracks to get the effect of ducking. one the pad and one the beat.or do they route more tracks into the side chain. thank'sssss.

4am · Post by **4am** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:53 pm

i'm also new to sidechaining but as far as i know the most common use of it is to route the kick to the bass track (with a sidechain compressor on it) to avoid crossing of frequencies in the same range.
so to answer your question just one track should be routed.
but i'm really not the reference on this matter...

Brain Cleaner · Post by **Brain Cleaner** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:18 am

Sidechaining works by changing what the device is "listening" for, when determining if it should work or not.

So, if you've got a compressor on a track, normally the compressor is listening to the audio passing through it to see if it should activate or not. If it's sidechained, it's going to completely ignore what's passing through it, and instead, rely solely on what's being sidechained, and it will act upon that signal instead of the original.

You can sidechain a number of ways, but usually it's a split signal off of what you want to affect. So, say if you want the kick to control the bass, you'd split the kick signal, either by duping the track and routing it, splitting it (like in Reason), or patching in off the multitrack return (if you're on a console).

dep affect · Post by **dep affect** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:52 am

i cant really get sidechaining nailed in ableton live; working with sends etc introduces big delays that throw it out of wack. strange

emef · Post by **emef** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:35 pm

watch this... it makes it very clear
was a lot of help to me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5eep4inXYs

go to the guys site where ya can download the live set that does it all for ya

http://www.abletonguru.com/tutorial-sid ... mpression/

seanio · Post by **seanio** » Tue May 01, 2007 8:07 pm

you cannot side-chain in live because its compressors have no input, there are some great third party plug-ins now that you can buy or get for free.
you should give these a try when you finally get the hang of the 'what to side chain' part

Personally i use gup-1 side-chain compressor, works pefectly in Live and good tutorial book with software teaching you how to use it. Give it a go if you get chance [/b]

seanio · Post by **seanio** » Wed May 02, 2007 1:36 pm

i have done some research into side chaining..........

I have gathered up a load of relevant info that i think mite help anyone who is dying to grab one of the software out there and test this dance music technique out

Hope this helps everyone, if not you cant say i didnt try!!!

seanio · Post by **seanio** » Wed May 02, 2007 2:40 pm

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i have done some research into side chaining..........

I have gathered up a load of relevant info that i think mite help anyone who is dying to grab one of the software out there and test this dance music technique out

Hope this helps everyone, if not you cant say i didnt try!!!
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SeANi0@ReViBE Recordings

hERE IT IS:.....

Tutorials - http://www.abletonguru.com/tutorial-sid ... mpression/
http://sonictransfer.com/side-chain-com ... rial.shtml
http://uc.panicnow.net/~cbong/sccomptute/

Videos - http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=O5eep4inXYs&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_DcL5ocGEc

suggestions from community - Use four Dual Compressors in a Live-rack.

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