DJ Grobe set free.

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.

Do you think DJ Grobe is trying to rip off the ableton community(Product origanally $35)

Yes, heys a w*nker
8
40%
No, heys a good bloke, it's ok to lie about your projects.
12
60%
 
Total votes: 20

Dj-Grobe
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Post by Dj-Grobe » Thu May 24, 2007 4:57 pm

Mike Goodwin wrote:
Dj-Grobe wrote:Yes i have one of that about 2 years ago, resitive, very cheap, one of that you can put over the LCD or CRT.
Work, but for drag the best its capacitive or saw, remeber that.

About that cheap, you need fix to the screen because if the touch move you need recalibrate again.
If want cheap one, try to buy one on ebay.
Im not sure I understand. So you have used one but there are some problems with them when used with your software? As cheap as I can get it done would be the way to go for me. I do not have $500+ to spend on a screen.
No no problem, you ca use, but its better saw, on resistive you need make a little of more presion over the surface when drag, example draging ball in pad or slider.
Anyway the sliders now have feature for improve the drag wen use resitive and you loose the drag for few milleseconds : )

You can use that, i just say its better any saw.

You not have 500U$ for but this touch : )

I not have 4000 U$ for import lemur to my country jaja for that reason this project born jaja. (well i have that amount, but consider its too much money)

You can go for that cheap touch, anyway, for 500 you can buy complete LCD + touch.
If you want only the tocuhscreen without lcd, you can buy one saw glass : ) without lcd, usually price its just 90 or 100U$

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Post by Mike Goodwin » Thu May 24, 2007 6:29 pm

Dj-Grobe wrote: If you want only the tocuhscreen without lcd, you can buy one saw glass : ) without lcd, usually price its just 90 or 100U$
! :D !

Where do I find that?!

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Post by mikemc » Thu May 24, 2007 6:58 pm

Mike Goodwin wrote:
Dj-Grobe wrote: If you want only the tocuhscreen without lcd, you can buy one saw glass : ) without lcd, usually price its just 90 or 100U$
! :D !

Where do I find that?!
http://shop-on-line.tvielectronics.com/ ... touch-kits

also maybe here

http://www.gpeg.buzzsites.net/page/touc ... lays_4.cfm
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Post by Mr Man » Thu May 24, 2007 7:39 pm

I dont know but I find it help to read his post in style of....

Mr Myagi in... Karate Kid!

Sounds like a really smart guy though and hope this wall in technology is soon to be broken because this touch screen thing looks pretty fucking niffty likes

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Post by Mike Goodwin » Fri May 25, 2007 1:28 am

Still cant find anything less than $210 usd for just an overlay that has USB out on it. Grobe if you have any links please share them with us.

Dj-Grobe
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Post by Dj-Grobe » Fri May 25, 2007 1:51 am

resitive kit , the more cheap not recomended but work !! remember that :)
http://cgi.ebay.com/15-in-Touchscreen-T ... dZViewItem


http://cgi.ebay.com/ELO-Intellitouch-se ... dZViewItem
elo intelitouch, the most recomended !!!
Its the same have touch screen i reocmend, just its the glass you nee dmanully mount to your lcd etc etc, remember that.
thsi is for 14.2· that not good if you plain use lcd,


For more find here:
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dl ... arch&fgtp=

Any resitive work just i say cpacitive or saw have the better sensitivity

Please any question or help needed, comment, criticizes, or any help needed try to go to:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... &start=300
This is the oriinal post i have for montouchlive related things.

Good loock buying touch :)

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Post by robbmasters » Fri May 25, 2007 8:50 am

Dj-Grobe: It's totally obvious that the software's only mono touch. And pretty darn obvious that's it's free too.

Unfortunately, whatever anyone does in life, there's always the potential for some idiot to get upset about it.

If someone did think monotouch was multitouch (despite the blindingly obvious name) and paid for it on that basis (despite it being free) then I'm sure you'd consider giving them a refund. But since that hasn't happened, it's irrelevant.

Don't waste your time on idiots like that. Just ignore them. And keep up the good work.
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Post by hoffman2k » Fri May 25, 2007 9:43 am

What I still cant grasp is why Jazzmutant is mentioned on the website?

Surely you have more in common with people who design touch screen software for bars and restaurants, then jazzmutant.
The only thing you have in common with jazzmutant is the faders in the software, which you ripped from them.

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Post by Tone Deft » Fri May 25, 2007 9:55 am

hoffman2k wrote:The only thing you have in common with jazzmutant is the faders in the software, which you ripped from them.
If he's not violating a patent then go for it, competition drives innovation and lower prices. There's not much difference between cash registers and midi gear, human controls are slow and blinky.
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Post by Dj-Grobe » Fri May 25, 2007 10:10 am

I not violate nothing, i already talk with Jazzmutant guys time ago about this, they contactme and coment to me what they not happy , Axel, request to me change few things, i i fix some tings an he aprove my new design and stay happy after see i change what they requested :P

I talk about wath i can do and wath i cant do for not violate patents the have
: )
Axel form jazzmutant its the guy contactme and aprove the new design,
They complaint about buttons i change my buttons, and they happy.
The sliders soon change a lot wth new features not available on jazzmutant sliders, MonoTouchLive continue changing for better features.

Some of buttons i have with arrow and some figures inside are absolutly close to jazzmutant, but jazzmutant introduce that butons on the last version.......so i rip that too?
: )

Some comon objects like sliders, play buttons, navigation buttons with arrows inside, forward or redwin buttons, are common........... so make design absolutly diferrent and functional at same time its really hard.
If sombody have some inovative idea or sugestion for make the things in diferent way, i stay absolulty open to introduce that change : )
So just sugest and i try the do the best.

Or just can send your negative feedback, but i apreciate any negative feedback be sended with sugestion like, hey man, do this and no that, you an change that etc etc lot of features i added are just sugestion people do here in the forum : )
Anyway if not have any intention to be colaborative.....its ok, just complaint without construct i acpet that why not?

Best regards :P


NOTE:
I hard working on the sliders fro time ago, for have vumeter inside, but jazzmutant do first and anounce first with dexter so again now i be acused of rip that, lol.
One guy in messenger sugestme that about 5 months ago, and sugest some way to show clipnames playing on the controller, soemthing not suported from ableton righ now.
He sugest some ways to do that and now broken my head to try find some way to add some rare and complex feature like this.
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Post by hoffman2k » Fri May 25, 2007 10:22 am

Tone Deft wrote:
hoffman2k wrote:The only thing you have in common with jazzmutant is the faders in the software, which you ripped from them.
If he's not violating a patent then go for it, competition drives innovation and lower prices. There's not much difference between cash registers and midi gear, human controls are slow and blinky.
Thats beside the point. Name 5 similarities that warrant the use of Jazzmutant's name. Why not compare to TEC for example?

Anyway, I'm not picking a fight or trying to get anybody mad.
I just don't see the connection between 1 touch software and jazzmutant.

One thing has been here since the 90's, the other is a high-end piece of equipment filled with science and technology in the operating software.
I guess i'm just nitpicking.

Competition is indeed good. My personal feeling (and experience) has learned me to not piss off competitors unprovoked. People carry that with them until they snap or make a big move.

http://forum.jazzmutant.com/viewtopic.php?t=160

Apperently you can use the Jazz editor software on a touch screen.
Just hold down "e".
So if it actually works, you get a fully configurable touch screen controller that operates with one touch.
The multitouch stuff is something handled by the lemur itself. It is capable of converting "touches" into streams of OSC or MIDI.

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Post by Tone Deft » Fri May 25, 2007 10:38 am

Nice thread you quoted hoffman, there is a difference between the technologies,

this post from synner says a lot
synner wrote:The beauty of the Lemur is that it is a fully self contained unit that can handle extremely complicated mathematical algorithms for generating all sorts of controller information. So many people are limited to thinking Lemur = fancy Midi controller. This is true to a point - but it is SO MUCH MORE. The Lemur software is dependant upon having a MULTITOUCH screen and it's built in computational parser for generating any type of controller information via OSC and MIDI.

A mono controller is the equivalent of having only one arm and one finger with which to operate your entire system... The Lemur provides the ability to input as much information as you want - with each of the ten digits on your hands. Couple that with the ability for the Lemur to capture your finger press and continue to control that parameter while you switch to another interface and control something else with your other fingers - the Lemur is hands down (no pun intended) the most advanced and versatile controller available in the market today. Your only limitation with the Lemur is your imagination.

You want an inexpensive mono controller? Use your mouse.
I haven't kept up on what's going on because I'm not in the market. For consumers like me the details get lost. Find your budget, shop around.
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Post by dango » Fri May 25, 2007 10:45 am

here is a an award for style_riser who started this thread.

it is the "you are a wanker who started a crap thread" award

feel free to insert it up your arse.

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Post by Tone Deft » Fri May 25, 2007 10:47 am

Thanks to dango from keeping me from googling 'Golden dildo' and sorting through the results.
8O

A title change to the thread would be cool.
In my life
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At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
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Post by style_riser » Fri May 25, 2007 10:48 am

I just want to see the response I would get, but come one grobe at the begining of his project did say he ALMOST got it working, which most ppl know is impossible, he still gets 30000+ views thougth . Guess this amount just says it all about the ableton community. :oops:

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