I have sussed out lives major feel problem

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
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Post by glu » Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:21 am

or write a song
no prevailing genre of music:
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Post by Heinz Graaf » Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:36 am

Moohahahaa!! This mofo missed the vel amount button. LOL

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Post by Jackal and Hyde » Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:54 am

hoffman2k wrote:
mercyplease wrote:If anyone in here talks garbage its certainly you. And YOU know exactly who I am.
Hey, you're talking about the "flawed velocity engine".
You're obviously the ignorant one..

What you're looking for is this:

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Post by smutek » Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:01 am

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Post by process » Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:10 am

Investigating Ableton: I'm about to get Live so I'm not totally familiar with all it's details----I have two questions that someone could help me with 1. From this Post it sounds like the Impulse cannot use velocity info from a controller---is this true?
2. If Torv is around to explain----you said that you imported your Live material into Logic to get more "feel/expressiveness"---could you explain how Logic enables this versus Ableton,and do you think you get better sound out of Logic(maybe this part is a whole new post/warzone)-----------------Thx

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Post by KU » Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:03 am

if you are confused and wondering if Lives feel is inferior to FL Studio or Logic.... it is not. Working with Lives MIDI velocity feel is perfectly fine provided you set up your equipment properly.

but hey that was entertainment. mercyplease pumping all this "i am so superior" energy into the thread and totally angry manfucking a hole in the wall!! oh man... thats just great.

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Post by wilxon » Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:28 am

mercyplease wrote:
the_planet wrote:How fucking hard is it to make your own goddamn groove?!
It's very simple. Just adjust the velocities yourself. Yes, Live has no "random velocity" feature". Get over it and make your own goddamn velocities.

"Injecting Groove" is not very difficult at all. It's just a matter of creatively adjusting velocities and swing - Something that is VERY simple to do using Live. Hell, I did it five fucking minutes ago. I nearly always do it with my hihats if they are 16th notes because it sounds nice in a house track.

Easy peasy. Live is a barebones tool. People like you want to rely on your equipment for creativity when you should rely on yourself.
Live does not allow you to make subtle velocity changes that sound good, its an on or off detail and they get completely lost in teh mix.
People like me have been funking it for years long before Ableton came on the go. This is the fucking problem with fanboys like you that have only ever experienced Live. Get out and about and hear the worlld about you.
I nearly always do it with my hihats if they are 16th notes because it sounds nice in a house track.
Oh does it sound nice I would never have guessed. Maybe just maybe thats why i posted the thread
I cant beleive how easy you have managed to wind everybody up with your thread.

Hats of to you.

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Post by wilxon » Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:33 am

hoffman2k wrote:
mercyplease wrote:If anyone in here talks garbage its certainly you. And YOU know exactly who I am.
Hey, you're talking about the "flawed velocity engine".
You're obviously the ignorant one..

What you're looking for is this:

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Image

Image

Or the equivalent of whatever plugin you're using...

Have fun talking yourself out of this one..
Nice one,

So who is he???

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Post by Mr-Bit » Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:35 am

A seqencer should be inert (have no soul).. or to be more accurate be like a mirror and reflect the soul of the person using it.

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: = :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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Post by Michael-SW » Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:41 am

If you want some random variation on velocity (which can be nice) just add Lives random midi velocity plug...

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Post by scientist » Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:01 pm

process wrote:1. From this Post it sounds like the Impulse cannot use velocity info from a controller---is this true?
no. impulse does respond to velocity.

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Post by sweetjesus » Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:13 pm

Michael-SW wrote:If you want some random variation on velocity (which can be nice) just add Lives random midi velocity plug...
i move my head back and forth.

the slight differences in percieved volume create awesome dynamics.

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Your troll-fu is weak, grasshopper

Post by rasputin » Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:53 pm

mercyplease wrote:I said what I said and thats it. For all my faults and for the people that hate me here because I speak the truth and wont join their little basement club I am serious about this.
No you're not. Or at least I hope you're not that self-deluded.
Added with lives complete lack of groove function it makes this software a robots dream. I do get feel from it but it takes a lot of work and even then just never sounds quite right.
Oh hai --Im an abelton programmers in ur software killing ur gruuuuuv
dynamics are so important in music period
Not only in "music period" is this so, but in regular music as well!
I rest my case
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Next troll, please this one has already expired!

r.

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Post by YILA » Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:23 pm

This post was just a big waste of my time....
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Post by evernaut » Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:25 pm

I've enjoyed it...just sitting back watching mp make a fool of himself. Again.

Good fun.

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