Behringer BCR2000 midi-controler rocks!

SkeptikTank · Post by **SkeptikTank** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:07 pm

I've tried pcr-30, oxygen, Korg Microkontrol, and uc33. Now they will all collect dust on a shelf. I Just unpacked and started to play with the brand new BCR2000. Its all endless rotary controllers, and they recieve midi from live: change a value with the mouse, and the bcr detects it, and adopts the new value. 20 buttons and 32 endless rotary encoders. (the upper row of 8 controller switch between 4 different values each at the touch of a button). Considering that it is just a little more than 200euro, nothing comes close as value for money. I've finally found the perfect live controller for me. Go check it out.

cosmosuave · Post by **cosmosuave** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:11 pm

Thanks for the review.... I have been sitting on the fence for a while awaiting the perfect controller to come round and priced right.... I'll have make a visit to the local music store and see if they have any in to tryy out... STill waiting for the Fader Fox to appear here in Canada...

A DJ · Post by **A DJ** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:15 pm

i was also waiting for a user with this controller.

tnx SkeptIK

pliez enlighten us with some more experiences with this machine....

tnx in advance

octex · Post by **octex** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:54 pm

Do the encoders turn smoothly or do they "click"?

I love Doepfer PocketDial, but I would really like some controller with rotary encoders that don't "click", and where one rotation always goes from 0-127.

Cryocon · Post by **Cryocon** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 8:34 am

Hey Spetiktank,

Where did you get your controller from? I've been waiting for ages and they are still unavailable here in the UK. I have been told a date of 16th July now (which is tomorrow), lets see if that's true.

SkeptikTank · Post by **SkeptikTank** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:47 am

I got it from a Swedish mail-order store musikborsen.se

hugolp · Post by **hugolp** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:38 pm

Has someone tried Fader Fox controllers? They look good at the prize they have. Is it a safe company?

cosmosuave wrote:STill waiting for the Fader Fox to appear here in Canada...

Chris Cowie · Post by **Chris Cowie** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:39 pm

While it looks Ok and the price is good. I really wish these controllers would have some decent length faders as well as pots. Mixing with pots is not my idea of fun. In a live situation I may want to push up four faders at one time. I cant do that with ta pots only unit.

Of all the portable controllers I have seen that does have faders they couldnt be more plasticky in feel, and actually embarrassing to use.

Why doesnt some company build an 8 channel unit that has decent 100mm faders and at least four pots above the faders for EQ and FX sends. Traditional console stylee...I dont mean the Mackie, or Logic control which are not portable enough for Live/DJ needs. Although thats the kind of build quality I would be looking for.

Perhaps they think no one would be willing to spend the denero, but I reckon a lot of working Dj's would....

Not moaning guys...Just waiting for the right one to come along

Cheers

.

ryansupak · Post by **ryansupak** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:43 pm

i too am waiting for somebody to make a nice MIDI controller -- not nice in the way that it has 10000000 knobs and joysticks, just nice in the way that it has a solid construction and a few really rugged faders and pads.

Mikael Adle · Post by **Mikael Adle** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:06 pm

Chris Cowie wrote:While it looks Ok and the price is good. I really wish these controllers would have some decent length faders as well as pots. Mixing with pots is not my idea of fun. In a live situation I may want to push up four faders at one time. I cant do that with ta pots only unit.

Go check Behringer site. Theres also one called BCF I think, with faders instead of knobs

Mikael Adle · Post by **Mikael Adle** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:09 pm

Btw, thanks for the review skeptiktank.

For questions about if they "musikborsen" is a "serious" company. They are one of the biggest musicstores in sweden.

Cryocon · Post by **Cryocon** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:09 pm

They are 100mm motorised faders as well. That's the one i'm going to get, rather than the BCR2000. Although for the price i could get both and it would still be a bargain.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:21 pm

Hi Spetiktank,
i'm also waiting to see this controller asap,
for now, can you tell me if it comes with presets for vsti?
I'd like to use it with softsynths in live4:
I play mostly in a studio and i'm looking for a perfect tool for control
pro-53, fm7 and reaktor, ecc...not much for mix.
Thanks

Lo-Fi Massahkah · Post by **Lo-Fi Massahkah** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:16 pm

Mikael Adle wrote:Btw, thanks for the review skeptiktank.

For questions about if they "musikborsen" is a "serious" company. They are one of the biggest musicstores in sweden.

I got the feeling that he was talking about FaderFox... Musikbörsen is OK, though. Although alot of times you could probably get better prices elsewhere.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:09 pm

You were right! Did anyone buy something from FaderFox?

Hugo

Lo-Fi Massahkah wrote:
Mikael Adle wrote:Btw, thanks for the review skeptiktank.

For questions about if they "musikborsen" is a "serious" company. They are one of the biggest musicstores in sweden.
I got the feeling that he was talking about FaderFox... Musikbörsen is OK, though. Although alot of times you could probably get better prices elsewhere.

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