glu wrote:Librado wrote:glu wrote:My thoughts on this are relatively simple. It's too late to make a difference with regards to Cheney, don't you remember MISSION ACCOMPLISHED? Sure it was on the news, but did we all just 'infer' that it was about "winning the war"? Some rich ass folks were toasting Hennessey that day to something bigger.
And what of all the nation-states that are still going through the decolonization process.... what do we find? The invisible hand still extracting wealth and resource from the periphery and sending it to the emeregent core, gotta love the World System. Didn't the US gov contract Hall and friends to build over a dozen bases in Iraq? I think the shit is locked,
including election 2008. I have perfectly good fucking reasons for it. Just take a look at the USA starting Election 2000. We could go back further but what's the point.
I don't think it will matter that much whether Dick is in or out (:twisted:). Not just because what is done is done, but also because the true channels of power do not originate from him. Sure he get's a nice slice of the pie, but the true powerful force will continue with or without Cheney just as it has before him. It's all in history.
It matters with "precedent" this adminastration has paved the way for future criminals in the white house. If we impeach at least it shows a message.
This administration is responsible for a great deal of turmoil, no doubt, but the "way for future criminals..." was well paved waaaaay before Bush and Co.
That's why everything has worked out so smooth for them, just follow the money!
yeah but I think they have definitely taken a few things a step further in the wrong direction - they have really tested how much they can get away with
the erosion of civil liberties is WAY scarier now because the technology is available to really control people
imagine if there was a draft like vietnam and people tried to escape it - you'd need money - ATMs and transactions can lead them to you, even bus/train tickets are changing to make you completely traceable - there are technologies being developed right now that will be able to track your every movement with the thousands of CC-TV cameras all over the place just by matching your photo to the database
people like Bush et al are scary because they say things like "if your not doing anything wrong it wont affect you" yet they move the bar on what is considered "wrong" all the time
it's really the wrong time in history to be getting these kind of heavy handed right wing governments
and the crazy paradox is - they are supposed to be the ones rooting for minimal government inteference - which is true in business, but when it comes to individual rights they are all for imposing rules on people and deciding what's best for everybody like abortion, banning stem cell technology etc etc
long and the short of it is, they are the last people I'd want deciding what's best for me and enforcing it with big brother technology