cycling 74 + ableton ??

wankee · Post by **wankee** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:58 am

what has the supposed collaboration between both become?

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:57 am

It ended up with the CEO of Ableton painting the new Cycling office in San Francisco.

We can only imagine what Alex is doing over there.

wankee · Post by **wankee** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:59 am

wow really helpfull collab :]

HECTORFELIX88 · Post by **HECTORFELIX88** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:00 am

It was the question i wrote here some weeks ago....we have perhaps to wait when you have the soft in your computer to see exactly what is new inside...but probably something from Max/Msp has influenced the ableton team for the coming years isn't it??? a bientot!! Beryann Parker

j2j · Post by **j2j** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:31 am

I am not interested in max.

I would like to see ableton grow to become the best most famous music production device in the whole world.

but I can't stand max... its a pain in the ass just to load a vst

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:48 am

j2j wrote:I am not interested in max.

I would like to see ableton grow to become the best most famous music production device in the whole world.

but I can't stand max... its a pain in the ass just to load a vst

Yeah. Its horrible.

Load up an object called VST~ and send the message "open".
What were they thinking?

Lo-Fi Massahkah · Post by **Lo-Fi Massahkah** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:03 pm

Maybe a bitch to digest - but perhaps the inspiration went Live->Max rather than Max->Live.

http://www.cycling74.com/story/2007/10/5/91222/9559

I'm kinda thrilled about the looks of Max 5, but I'm certainly hoping for "better way of communicating between Max and Live in the future". Quoting a bold, german, zebra cap wearing Live user/creator I "ran" into in Copenhagen a few weeks back.

-M

dextroc · Post by **dextroc** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:22 pm

j2j wrote:I am not interested in max.

I would like to see ableton grow to become the best most famous music production device in the whole world.

but I can't stand max... its a pain in the ass just to load a vst

what? it's not like max is a daw! using vst's within max kind of defeats its purpose, that is making your own effects. i love max. i'm constanly using it to make my own effects, synths and countless patches to control live, either systematically or randomly. i'm already benefitting from an "unofficial collaboration" between the two programs using rewire and the virtual midi outs from max. i already love that, and can't wait to see what an official collaboration can offer.

corygilbert · Post by **corygilbert** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:38 pm

Yeah, I hate guitars too, I mean it takes like forever to "tune" it and then it's like a million different postitions and chords and picking control with the other hand, I mean I can be up and shredding on Guitar Hero in about 15 min, and it sounds just like the real song!'

cavern · Post by **cavern** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:05 pm

People who hate Max are just impatient.

friend_kami · Post by **friend_kami** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:14 pm

yum max5.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:39 pm

OSC! OSC! OSC!

there's talk of a Live looper where the first loop sets the length for all the others. this could be done if Live sent all it's parameters on OSC. you wouldn't even need to see the max window, it would read stuff from Live then set other parameters in Live.

likewise users could make a max GUI to replace the Live GUI and you never have to see Live, only max.

same thing with beat slicing, which we have.

and countless other tools, not to mention video interaction.

there's no word on it, maybe Live 7 was the core geekteam going over the audio engine, maybe now they're looking at the control code to see how/where/why they can tack on OSC implementation and meet max/msp halfway.

you might hate max, but you'll LOVE some of the shit users could make and share with you. there's no question max is a bitch to work with, it's all about practice, the tutorials and ripping off help file examples. I'm glad I have it as a tool but I'm not about to replace Live with it.

j2j · Post by **j2j** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:06 pm

Tone Deft wrote: you might hate max, but you'll LOVE some of the shit users could make and share with you. there's no question max is a bitch to work with, it's all about practice, the tutorials and ripping off help file examples. I'm glad I have it as a tool but I'm not about to replace Live with it.

perhaps this was the most fair response.

John Sweet · Post by **John Sweet** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:15 am

We're a month and a half away from the one year anniversary of the announcement.

Doesn't that mean we deserve a hint from someone? Musikmesse better not come and go this year without info.

It's safe to guess it will benefit non-traditional uses and possibly live performance, right? Couldn't anyone at Ableton say anything, however vague?

Oscar F · Post by **Oscar F** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:07 pm

wankee wrote:what has the supposed collaboration between both become?

BUGGO - The infinitely crashing audio performance device

cycling 74 + ableton ??

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