Panning problem when using Sends!

cloudstrife · Post by **cloudstrife** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:40 pm

When using sends I can't pan the signal to the right on the send track, only center or left! The more I pan to right the less audible the track becomes.

I know I could just leave the send track centered and adjust the pan knob on the return track, but that's not what I want.
Cause I'm sending both left & right tracks to the return FX.

Has anyone a clue?

Thanks!
Josh

cloudstrife · Post by **cloudstrife** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:11 pm

Can't find any information about this specific issue in the Live manual...

cloudstrife · Post by **cloudstrife** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:27 pm

??

Lux Libra · Post by **Lux Libra** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:32 pm

you have this issue with an audio file or with a VSTi ?
maybe your source material is hard panned left or mono left ?

cloudstrife · Post by **cloudstrife** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:41 pm

The return tracks contain all the VSTs.

The problem occurs on the audio tracks, which send their signals to the returns.
No, I always record in stereo, they are all stereo.

Edit: I've had the same problem in other sequencing programs as well. The sound would always be completely turned off when panning to hard right.

globalgoon · Post by **globalgoon** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:41 pm

what effect do you have on the send channel?

cloudstrife · Post by **cloudstrife** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:44 pm

No effects on the send channels. The send tracks send dry guitar signals to return tracks. The return tracks have the Guitar Rig 2 VST.

Edit: Maybe the problem is caused, cause the VST has a pan option, too (set to center).

Lo-Fi Massahkah · Post by **Lo-Fi Massahkah** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:50 pm

Maybe some phasing which leads to cancelling...?

-M

cloudstrife · Post by **cloudstrife** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:54 pm

Lo-Fi Massahkah wrote:Maybe some phasing which leads to cancelling...?

-M

How would I be able to fix that?

cloudstrife · Post by **cloudstrife** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:57 pm

When I set the audio tracks back to master output, I can pan to hard right, but the signal is MUCH quieter when panned to right in comparison to left!

cloudstrife · Post by **cloudstrife** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:05 pm

As mentioned before I could still leave the track's panning at center and use the pan knob on the return (which works fine), but that would mean that I could only send tracks to the VST plugin, which will either be panned right OR left. Thus meaning that I would have to set up two VST instances, which I DON'T want!

cloudstrife · Post by **cloudstrife** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:19 pm

I can get it to work now! However, when panned to right, it is still noticeably quieter.

Damn, it's making me sick

It is weird, cause the output meters are showing the same level on both sides.

omptimistclub · Post by **omptimistclub** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:58 pm

I'm having this problem too.

I have tracks recorded in mono. I surmise from reading in these forums that the default mono left is sent to both channels by default in ableton when you play the track, but the track itself is left mono. So when panning left on these mono tracks, loudness increases, while panning right decreases loudness until the sound is gone.

This is phase cancellation at work? I have a mono track I want to pan right, and the both the pan at the fader and the Utility effect make it go bye bye.

What do I do? Create a pseudo stereo image using a slightly delayed version of the track and try to pan that? There's got to be something very simple that I'm missing here... it's making me feel quite stoopid.

I've searched the forums and seen similar questions but no answer has worked for me yet...

Panning problem when using Sends!

Panning problem when using Sends!

Help!