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Post by kpa » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:51 pm

just caught this video on another forum, http://youtube.com/watch?v=L2Y4IC8Cnu8, and i see that its been mentioned earlier in this thread. the videos pretty mince until the pyramid lights up and DP appear. i got a lemur-semi when i saw those samples being triggered does that make me sad??

as for kanye, i've never been a fan, he contradicts himself all the time, when in actual fact he's just trying to cover up his insecurities, just a case of emperors new clothes in that radio stations here in the UK (i.e. bbc radio1) have no choice but to talk him up due to record company politics and the need to seem cutting edge and cool.

i watched a video of kanye in the studio making the beat for stronger with timbaland, and he's all like 'i'm looking for a more compressed beat, something like boom..' and timbaland just looks like 'what the fuck am i doing here with this dick?'

as for daft punk, i would have let him make the stronger in the studio and then hit him with a massive sample clearance percentage, so either its a waste of his time, or he gets little cash from it.

you can probably guess im not kanyes biggest fan.

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p.s. he has a goofy jaw.
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Post by Sales Dude McBoob » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:26 pm

Kanye does seem to be hiding serious insecurities...

And he does make a complete ass of himself...

But he's talented, that performance was great, the song is good.

Argue all you want in the Special Olympics, but how do you argue down actual record sales?

The Ma Ma song was good too. I'm pro Kanye.

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Post by mdk » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:34 pm

Sales Dude McBoob wrote:but how do you argue down actual record sales?
you dont need to.

just like you dont make the case that McDonalds is great food because they sell more than anyone else.
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Post by rasputin » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:33 pm

All she did was write some lyrics and sing on a grammy winning album. Yes that's very easy.
Before you get all breathless about "Grammy-winning album" do go back and check out some other Grammy winners. Like Billy Joel and Dexy's Midnite Runners.

And Jethro Tull, as brilliant as they were, winning for Best Hard Rock/Heavy Metal record in 1988?

Sometimes the Grammys get it right, but when they don't it's a howler.

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Post by djadonis206 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:40 pm

Sleep Tyght wrote: The argument between rap and hip hop music sometimes...is straight bullshit. I think YOU KNOW it is.



I don't know if bullshit is a word I would use to describe the argument between rap and hip-hop.

The fact of the matter is, music is changing. It changes everyday.

What would you describe the Chemical Brothers as? Linkin Park? Prodigy?

They take elements from all genres and sub genres to make music.

Potter Stewart summed up "hard - Core P*rnography" as hard to describe but I know it when I see it!

Same goes for Hip-Hop, rap, pop, electronica, rock etc etc

I know a rap album when I hear it - I know a hip-hop album when I hear it

I know a pop album when I hear it.

Can't put it in word or even give it an award but you know...just listen.
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Post by popslut » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:00 pm

kpa wrote:those samples being triggered
Nothing is being triggered from those Lemurs. They are stage props.

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Post by RibbedSauce » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:09 pm

popslut wrote:
kpa wrote:those samples being triggered
Nothing is being triggered from those Lemurs. They are stage props.
i think youll find that was daft punks to quote the news sites "first ever live tv performance"

live tv performance

live

tv

performance

...live!
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Post by Tone Deft » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:10 pm

RibbedSauce wrote:
popslut wrote:
kpa wrote:those samples being triggered
Nothing is being triggered from those Lemurs. They are stage props.
i think youll find that was daft punks to quote the news sites "first ever live tv performance"

live tv performance

live

tv

performance

...live!
I forget that this is kind of a DJ-centric crowd and doing shit like triggering samples and filter sweeps is considered a performance. yes, they were affecting the audio live. big fucking deal.
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Post by RibbedSauce » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:12 pm

these bitter underground types
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Post by djadonis206 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:18 pm

Tone Deft wrote:big fucking deal.
You so crazy
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Post by Tone Deft » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:23 pm

RibbedSauce wrote:these bitter underground types
worse, I'm a bitter guitar player.

with this debate and debates about faking on stage or what is music, I think the times are just changing. as I grew up there was no DJ worship and very very little synth playing, times are changing, peoples' expectations are changing, the norm is changing.

Daft Punk displayed a level of dexterity and musiciality with their Lemurs that only consumate professionals with virtuoso skills could possibly pull off. they must've hit samples like 20 times, and I thought their quantization settings were incredible!!
damn kids these days... :roll:
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Post by djadonis206 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:29 pm

Least not forget Tone Deft starting making music with an Abacus

Moses was in his first band :lol:

Jesus still owes him 5 bucks for some weed :wink:

He knew the Virgin Mary before she was a virgin (doh!)

He remembers when the Aztecs where a small gang from South Central 8O


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Post by Tone Deft » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:31 pm

/shakes cane at Adonis!!
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Post by hoffman2k » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:36 pm

popslut wrote:
kpa wrote:those samples being triggered
Nothing is being triggered from those Lemurs. They are stage props.
Its one of the saddest things I've seen today.
4 Lemurs being smashed like its a game a whack-a-mole.
They're obviously stage props. I mean, how much would they be able to control anyway? The song is ripped, the effects are automated and I'm not even sure if Kanye isn't playbacking.

Funny youtube comments on that video. From calling people haters to claiming that hip hop is alive again.

Really sad...

I think somebody should combine reality TV with the premise of the game "Lemmings".

Splat... Splat... Splat...

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Post by mdk » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:36 pm

RibbedSauce wrote: i think youll find that was daft punks to quote the news sites "first ever live tv performance"
its a 'live tv' performance, not 'live performance' on tv. although they are alive, so any interpretation works.

anyway, why am i bothering.

i thought it was bobbins.

never liked either of the 'artists' involved.

best do something constructive. quick.
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