LIVE 4 PERFORMANCE TEST

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:14 pm

1) 29-32%
2) desktop dual g5
3) osx 10,3,5
4) 1,8 GHz ppc g5 (2x)
5) 256 mb
6) built-in 512 samples
7) 7200

Not too bad considering the 108% i got with my dual g4

cheers

MarkH · Post by **MarkH** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:30 pm

hoffman2k wrote:1) 29-32%
2) desktop dual g5
3) osx 10,3,5
4) 1,8 GHz ppc g5 (2x)
5) 256 mb
6) built-in 512 samples
7) 7200

Not too bad considering the 108% i got with my dual g4

cheers

I find this interesting as many of the Wintel machines between 2.8 - 3.2Ghz are around 25% and have over 256MB ram. Seems like the G5 is holding up quite well especially considering Live doesn't really use the second CPU very much. This is encouraging.

Luke@Intime · Post by **Luke@Intime** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:49 pm

Newly self built custom system:

1) 17-19%

2) Amd FX-53 skt939
3) XP SP1
4) 2.4ghz with 1MB L2 Cache
5) 1024 - Corsair TwinX DDR400
6) Digidesign 002 Rack
7) 2x 74GB WD Raptor 10,000 RPM (Raid 0)

Overall i rekon its around a 35% increase than my old system. Its mad how many plugins I can now load. I saved a song that I was working on which was at 84% in my old system (athlon 3200+, 7200rpm HD) and the system was pretty slow for what i needed. Now its at 50% and much smoother. I dont get my system grindin to a halt anymore which at the time was very frustrating..

dpel · Post by **dpel** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:06 pm

Machinate wrote:
dpel wrote:1, 4.0.3--> 23%-26%
2, Custom PC
3, xp / sp1
4, AMD Athalon 3000+ ASUS A7V8X
5, 1.5 gig DDR 333
6, RME HDSP 96/52
7, serial ata 7200 seagate baracuda

if anybody can suggest how i can significantly improve on this,
they will recieve the prize....
Upgrade to xp sp2, I went from 28 to 25 percent when I upgraded, sooo it's a 10 percent speed increase

thanx Machinate!!!

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:31 pm

Luke@Intime wrote:Newly self built custom system:

1) 17-19%
2) Amd FX-53 skt939
3) XP SP1
4) 2.4ghz with 1MB L2 Cache
5) 1024 - Corsair TwinX DDR400
6) Digidesign 002 Rack
7) 2x 74GB WD Raptor 10,000 RPM (Raid 0)

Overall i rekon its around a 35% increase than my old system. Its mad how many plugins I can now load. I saved a song that I was working on which was at 84% in my old system (athlon 3200+, 7200rpm HD) and the system was pretty slow for what i needed. Now its at 50% and much smoother. I dont get my system grindin to a halt anymore which at the time was very frustrating..

Wow if you're hitting 50% with AMD's fastest "enthusiast" offering, your methods must be really demanding. What motherboard are you using? Have you considered overclocking? i think the FX-53 is the only new 64 bit chip with an unlocked multiplier, which basically encourages overclocking as long as you can regulate the temperatures.

Luke@Intime · Post by **Luke@Intime** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:02 am

Wow if you're hitting 50% with AMD's fastest "enthusiast" offering, your methods must be really demanding. What motherboard are you using? Have you considered overclocking? i think the FX-53 is the only new 64 bit chip with an unlocked multiplier, which basically encourages overclocking as long as you can regulate the temperatures.

Hi Adam,

I do like to run multiple synths/effects which some took up 30% in my old amd 3200+ but 10% now

. Im using the Asus A8V deluxe (wireless version). When actually running ableton under heavy cpu load without any overclocking its around 43'c... I have tried overclocking using the features in bios (AI Overclocking), got it to around 2600mhz but the temperatures were to high for my liking...about 64'c (heavy cpu load) using the supplied heatsink. (it was stable though) It increased performance by only 2-3% under ableton. I will probably stick to standard for the moment as upgrading has cost me far too much so far.....

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:32 am

give clockgen a try:
http://www.cpuid.com/clockgen.php

since its software based, you can OC on an as needed basis. also you can adjust the core voltage, which is what i do to keep temps down when i bump my A64 3000 to 3200, it remains stable and i can even get it cooler @ 3200 under heavy load than @ stock settings under heavy load.

Luke@Intime · Post by **Luke@Intime** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:19 am

Thanks. I'll give it a go

software based is probably the best option like you say (instead of bios) for that extra bit of juice when needed - and control over Vcore.

Cheers

pentajigga · Post by **pentajigga** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:33 am

luke, did you buy or build your machine!! sounds tasty!

raapie · Post by **raapie** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:48 pm

I am interested to find out if people are having problems with a noisy-fan and hum on the their soundcard. Some people using a dual G5 seems to have these problems while others don't. The hum-power issue is an old one so I suspect Apple has changed the power-adapter for the new G5's. Noise might not be an issue on the water-cooled G5's.

Please tell me more... my orange iMac is too old for any work at all... I am considering to spend some money on this guy Jobs...

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:42 pm

raapie wrote:I am interested to find out if people are having problems with a noisy-fan and hum on the their soundcard. Some people using a dual G5 seems to have these problems while others don't. The hum-power issue is an old one so I suspect Apple has changed the power-adapter for the new G5's. Noise might not be an issue on the water-cooled G5's.

Please tell me more... my orange iMac is too old for any work at all... I am considering to spend some money on this guy Jobs...

i got my g5 yesterday. so far i can say it's more silent then my old g4 imac or g4 powermac. I did get the hiss with previous macs but the g5's built in outputs and a m-audio fw-410 give pretty clean sound now.
I cant comment for other devices though.

Also, when recording with the built-in s/pdif i/o i get very low latency.
i can go down to 2ms + 2ms = 4ms at 64 samples. i can go lower but i stopped there. (i believe limit is 32 samples)

Performance is also wonderfull. (i have a dual 1,8 with 256mb ram)
i noticed a big difference in sets i used to max out with.

cheers

raapie · Post by **raapie** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:09 pm

thansk for the update. is this with water cooling?

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:40 pm

raapie wrote:thansk for the update. is this with water cooling?

Yeah, if i'm not mistaken i believe all the latest models are watercooled.
You practicly only hear the vent at startup. the fan of my external HD makes more noise then the g5 overall.

Luke@Intime · Post by **Luke@Intime** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:59 pm

pentajigga wrote:luke, did you buy or build your machine!! sounds tasty!

Hi,
I built it because then you know your getting top quality reliable components (if you research compatibility/reviews), and its exactly for your needs. Also sometimes its cheaper to build your own as well

hivemind · Post by **hivemind** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:55 pm

hoffman2k wrote:
raapie wrote:thansk for the update. is this with water cooling?
Yeah, if i'm not mistaken i believe all the latest models are watercooled.
You practicly only hear the vent at startup. the fan of my external HD makes more noise then the g5 overall.

only the 2.5GHz models are water-cooled.

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