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Post by ava » Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:27 am

Machinate wrote:
And my visuals as a slideshow here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andreaswet ... 8558/show/

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nice to see visual work on the forum.

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Post by Machinate » Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:48 pm

thanks, ava - Still having difficulties capturing my work properly (not stills, moving images, that is). Am seriously considering a second machine+blackmagic intensity capture card... but this also involves raid arrays and such. Capturing 30fps 720p is just a bitch :cry:
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Post by b0unce » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:34 pm

Machinate wrote:thanks, ava - Still having difficulties capturing my work properly (not stills, moving images, that is). Am seriously considering a second machine+blackmagic intensity capture card... but this also involves raid arrays and such. Capturing 30fps 720p is just a bitch :cry:
what, no Render option ? Even if you're doing it live, can't the software just record the input signals and render from that ?

VVVV or Jitter or ??
(edit: seems like its VVVV)


Man, not being able to render would be a drag...
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Post by Machinate » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:39 pm

I can always do a non-realtime render, sure. But that's not what realtime visuals are about. Besides, I'm quite (overly) dogmatic regarding the realtime aspects of my work, and all the little tweaks just don't work if it isn't live.

GFX processors are developed solely to display graphics, not capture them, unfortunately - and uncompressed HD capture is tough.

I have done "good" captures on the machine. but nothing that really shows what this rig can do, hence the need to "upgrade".
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Post by Machinate » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:41 pm

b0unce wrote:Even if you're doing it live, can't the software just record the input signals and render from that ?

VVVV or Jitter or ??
(edit: seems like its VVVV)


Man, not being able to render would be a drag...
It can be rigged for recording all incoming signals, but that would mean making the patches roughly 100% larger - not good either. And the internal realtime capturing just taxes the system a lot, so framerates are tough to maintain.
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Post by b0unce » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:50 pm

Machinate wrote:It can be rigged for recording all incoming signals, but that would mean making the patches roughly 100% larger - not good either. And the internal realtime capturing just taxes the system a lot, so framerates are tough to maintain.
really ? a patch designed purely to capture input data would be the same size (and cost to CPU) as your visuals patch ?

that seems odd
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Post by Machinate » Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:00 pm

b0unce wrote:
Machinate wrote:It can be rigged for recording all incoming signals, but that would mean making the patches roughly 100% larger - not good either. And the internal realtime capturing just taxes the system a lot, so framerates are tough to maintain.
really ? a patch designed purely to capture input data would be the same size (and cost to CPU) as your visuals patch ?

that seems odd
That really speaks to a couple of things: one is the ease of working with Spreads in vvvv.

If I had to do this in non-realtime I would have to record 10-16 stems of stereo audio from one application to another, as well as dozens of hi-speed sensor and controller inputs. That's a totally different patch, and not even one you can bring with you to the next patch.

So yes, I prefer real-time ;)
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Post by synnack » Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:11 am

Machinate wrote:I can always do a non-realtime render, sure. But that's not what realtime visuals are about. Besides, I'm quite (overly) dogmatic regarding the realtime aspects of my work, and all the little tweaks just don't work if it isn't live.

GFX processors are developed solely to display graphics, not capture them, unfortunately - and uncompressed HD capture is tough.

I have done "good" captures on the machine. but nothing that really shows what this rig can do, hence the need to "upgrade".
I keep meaning to try video out to a DV cam that accepts S-Video in and recording straight to tape.

It will downsample though so it's not good enough to record a realtime visual set that you'd release on DVD but it's "good enough" for YouTube I'd imagine.

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Post by craftycurate » Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:28 am

Yep ... Mostly 3D these days. A couple of examples:

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This is a 3D render with some film-look post-work.

A landscape 3D render this time:

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And finally, a science fiction one ...

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Larger versions and a few more images at http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/ ... _id=434993
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Post by abort » Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:43 am

WOW those are really great.

That's just really cool, I'm really into that kind of stuff.

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Post by Tone Deft » Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:39 pm

fatrabbit - what the hell is that track? omfg hugeness!


some of you worthless shits are actually talented!!
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Post by gjm » Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:41 pm

Tone Deft wrote:fatrabbit - what the hell is that track? omfg hugeness!

<props>
Yeah man, I really enjoyed that. Thanks.
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Post by abort » Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:42 pm

dido, thats a total "fatrabbit" track!!! It should be PHATRabbit instead!

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Post by aqua_tek » Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:07 pm

Machinate wrote:I do both computer visuals and the odd photo piece.
http://flickr.com/photos/andreaswetterberg/
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And my visuals as a slideshow here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andreaswet ... 8558/show/

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those visuals look crazy 8O

do you have a video of this stuff in motion? i'd love to see it

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this one just became my desktop picture
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:D

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