:: RENDER AUDIO :: NOT THE QUALITY AS YOU HEAR IT ::

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ulidjan
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:: RENDER AUDIO :: NOT THE QUALITY AS YOU HEAR IT ::

Post by ulidjan » Sat Nov 06, 2004 5:25 pm

i experience (also with HIQ on):
rendered audiofiles are not
sounding the way i hear the signal before
rendering...

workaround is: resampling into live

this works fine.

anyone else the same experiences?

btw: why does rendering not work as it should?

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Post by Lo-Fi Massahkah » Sat Nov 06, 2004 5:26 pm

Curious to your findings... :?: :? :?:

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Post by Martyn » Sat Nov 06, 2004 6:07 pm

I've had no probs rendering, make sure that everything is unchecked in the render options list, especially nomalise, and have a good limiter across the outputs. Just set it to it's most gentle settings if you don't need to compress much, you just need to ensure that nothing clips your outputs.

Should be ok.

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Post by ulidjan » Sat Nov 06, 2004 6:50 pm

it happens especially with vst-i and effects.

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Post by milfbait » Sat Nov 06, 2004 8:47 pm

Just use Silverspike Tape-it. http://www.silverspike.com/download.html

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Post by epilacs » Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:09 pm

do a forum search.
there have been many threads relating to this.
it will be easy to pick up on the workarounds and such.
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Post by raapie » Sun Nov 07, 2004 8:47 am

sample rates differences probaly. most synth sound better in 96 kHZ
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Post by AdamJay » Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:33 am

raapie wrote:sample rates differences probaly. most synth sound better in 96 kHZ
very good point.

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Post by borg » Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:18 am

i'm not assuming anything :wink: but are you sure you turned off all fx you included in the rendering when listening to your newly rendered file?
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Post by ulidjan » Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:12 pm

sure;)

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Post by supster » Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:30 pm

milfbait wrote:Just use Silverspike Tape-it. http://www.silverspike.com/download.html

Does Tapit2 record cut loops (1, 2, 4, 8 bar)? It says it does "Synchronized recordings. Four different synchronization sources"

Is that what that means. Do you own this?

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Post by epilacs » Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:29 pm

try backing off on the master volume before you render.
i have had tracks that sounded fine but then came out
too hot after rendering (with no normalization)

also, what exactly is the difference in sound?
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Post by Vercengetorex » Mon Nov 08, 2004 5:14 pm

You mentioned reasmpling "into Live", does this mean you are running from an analog output back into an analog input on your audio interface?
I find that I far more often use Lives very flexible routing to reasmple in Live, as I dislike the render option myself (not for sound quality, just for ease of use in my workflow) and find no audible difference between an original file, and one re-recorded with Live 4s incredible new routing. Give it a try!
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Post by WhyTee » Sun Nov 28, 2004 9:05 pm

supster wrote:
Does Tapit2 record cut loops (1, 2, 4, 8 bar)? It says it does "Synchronized recordings. Four different synchronization sources"

Is that what that means.
Yes, you can specify any number of bars or beats to record (this is one of the 4 syncing modes).
And it can normalize your records on the fly.

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