Any female Ableton users out there?

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:04 pm

dom wrote:
nebulae wrote: If any of you get the chance to teach people how to use Live well, then DO IT...it's a great experience for both yourself and the person you help.
Word. Spoken like a true prodigy.

*blush*

so....umm....what are you wearing?

brightonalex · Post by **brightonalex** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:15 pm

nebulae wrote:
ollyb303 wrote:
nebulae wrote: 4. DO NOT go complex until they're ready. Stuff like Compression are VERY tough topics that require lots of examples and testing. Don't even mention side-chaining until they understand the difference between ratio, threshold, knee.

That should get you started.

ratio, threshold and what?

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:18 pm

knee (the curve of the compression at the point where it starts to compress)

dom · Post by **dom** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:26 pm

nebulae wrote:
dom wrote:
nebulae wrote: If any of you get the chance to teach people how to use Live well, then DO IT...it's a great experience for both yourself and the person you help.
Word. Spoken like a true prodigy.
*blush*

so....umm....what are you wearing?

As always when working: my black custom mades evil/\live logo support superhero suit made of d3o (http://www.d3oteam.com/what_is_d3o.php?id=3), a studded belt and adidas sambas.

:)

ollyb303 · Post by **ollyb303** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:40 pm

nebulae wrote:
ollyb303 wrote:
nebulae wrote:If any of you get the chance to teach people how to use Live well, then DO IT...it's a great experience for both yourself and the person you help.
I'm actually running a workshop for a couple of friends who have started using Live and got pretty lost pretty quickly, later this month... Any tips?
I'd say do the following:
1. Be strict about vocabulary. Specifically, make them memorize what Session, Arrange, Clip means, and what the bottom pane tells you when you view the Properties of each. Always ask them which view they are in, and what the bottom pane is reflecting at any given moment.
2. Then approach it from a workflow perspective...what do you want to do? If it's drums programming, how do you start? If it's bass programming, what do you do? (instantiate a plug, create a midi clip, go into clip properties, draw in notes, or record notes, etc etc.) Taking a workflow angle will help people get stuff done, and discover ways to do it on their own as they build their knowledge.
3. If real basic, go back to fundamentals. What's the diff b/w midi and audio? How do you get a midi clip to generate audio? how do you manipulate and sequence audio clips like midi? Stress the vocabulary, always.
4. DO NOT go complex until they're ready. Stuff like Compression are VERY tough topics that require lots of examples and testing. Don't even mention side-chaining until they understand the difference between ratio, threshold, knee.

That should get you started.

Many thanks Neb, you are indeed a font of purest wisdom.

10 internets to you sir.

UKRuss · Post by **UKRuss** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:09 pm

ollyb303 wrote:We seem to have forgotten Mrs Akitumi!

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:57 pm

ollyb303 wrote:
nebulae wrote:
ollyb303 wrote: I'm actually running a workshop for a couple of friends who have started using Live and got pretty lost pretty quickly, later this month... Any tips?
I'd say do the following:
1. Be strict about vocabulary. Specifically, make them memorize what Session, Arrange, Clip means, and what the bottom pane tells you when you view the Properties of each. Always ask them which view they are in, and what the bottom pane is reflecting at any given moment.
2. Then approach it from a workflow perspective...what do you want to do? If it's drums programming, how do you start? If it's bass programming, what do you do? (instantiate a plug, create a midi clip, go into clip properties, draw in notes, or record notes, etc etc.) Taking a workflow angle will help people get stuff done, and discover ways to do it on their own as they build their knowledge.
3. If real basic, go back to fundamentals. What's the diff b/w midi and audio? How do you get a midi clip to generate audio? how do you manipulate and sequence audio clips like midi? Stress the vocabulary, always.
4. DO NOT go complex until they're ready. Stuff like Compression are VERY tough topics that require lots of examples and testing. Don't even mention side-chaining until they understand the difference between ratio, threshold, knee.

That should get you started.
Many thanks Neb, you are indeed a font of purest wisdom.

10 internets to you sir.

Good luck - let me know if my "wisdom" works, or if they look even more confused that before they started

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:00 pm

dom wrote: so....umm....what are you wearing?

As always when working: my black custom mades evil/\live logo support superhero suit made of d3o (http://www.d3oteam.com/what_is_d3o.php?id=3), a studded belt and adidas sambas.

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what is d3o?
d3o is a material containing ‘Intelligent Molecules’ which flow freely under normal conditions making it soft and flexible, but lock together on shock to absorb all of the impact energy. But, enough of the science… what does this actually mean? Well for anyone participating in sport, or any kind of activity with a danger of injury from impact, it means you get protection that is both lightweight and flexible but that works when you need it to. d3o makes you faster, stronger, and smarter.

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twisted-space · Post by **twisted-space** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:24 pm

dom wrote:
nebulae wrote:

so....umm....what are you wearing?
As always when working: my black custom mades evil/\live logo support superhero suit made of d3o (http://www.d3oteam.com/what_is_d3o.php?id=3), a studded belt and adidas sambas.

I think everyone on the forum would like to see a photo

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:25 pm

twisted-space wrote:
dom wrote:
nebulae wrote:

so....umm....what are you wearing?
As always when working: my black custom mades evil/\live logo support superhero suit made of d3o (http://www.d3oteam.com/what_is_d3o.php?id=3), a studded belt and adidas sambas.

I think everyopne on the forum would like to see a photo

+1!!!!!!!!

Give it up, Dom!

dom · Post by **dom** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:16 pm

i'm not sure if you really deserved that. will think about it.
thank god, it's friday.

twisted-space · Post by **twisted-space** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:04 pm

dom wrote:i'm not sure if you really deserved that. will think about it.
thank god, it's friday.

I've got a good memory, the weekend won't save you.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:15 pm

dom wrote:i'm not sure if you really deserved that. will think about it.
thank god, it's friday.

Give us a little Fun Fun, you freak!

dom · Post by **dom** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:26 pm

pfff, i thought fun fun friday was your invention?

here, found something on teh internets in screech's flickr account that might be good enough for a laugh.
i'm too lazy to upload the really embarassing photos.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/44064080@N00/page7/

keep the hands out of your pocket, neb.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:30 pm

dom wrote:pfff, i thought fun fun friday was your invention?

here, found something on teh internets in screech's flickr account that might be good enough for a laugh.
i'm too lazy to upload the really embarassing photos.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/44064080@N00/page7/

keep the hands out of your pocket, neb.

My hands would be all over the middle-aged-partially-balding-hubba-hubba reading his email.