no one needs a vocoder!

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Post by Machinate » Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:54 pm

andydes wrote:
evon wrote:Well..I'm a vocoder fan..cant wait to experiment with one that I know was made for the DAW I am using. Although, I really never thought it was worth buying as a dedicated plug and the frebies I tried never really matched up to my expectations.
Excatly how I feel. Good with drum sounds, noises, guitars, etc. I probably won't be putting vocals through it, but you never know.
I know.
http://wetterberg.dk/tracks/Wetterberg. ... o.This.mp3

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Post by nebulae » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:05 pm

vocoders are AWESOME. They are used all the time!! The last song I remember hearing one in is Human by The Killers.

They are used for everything from cheesy robotik to subtle chorus/thickening. I can't wait for this!!

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Post by friend_kami » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:12 pm

Robert Henke wrote:btw.: I really had no idea that the Vocoder info has been leaked. So, when that dude asked the question during my talk I was really really confused.

But, yes, there is a Vocoder now, and it can do a lot of really nice things, way beyond the classical chords with vocals stuff....

Robert
i keep thinking, who will be the first one to make an automatic harmoniser using m4l and the vocoder?

and more importantly: can that be done?

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Post by nebulae » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:15 pm

Robert Henke wrote:btw.: I really had no idea that the Vocoder info has been leaked. So, when that dude asked the question during my talk I was really really confused.

But, yes, there is a Vocoder now, and it can do a lot of really nice things, way beyond the classical chords with vocals stuff....

Robert
yeah, well, now we know your poker face. don't plan on lying in the future. we'll totally know. :P

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Post by Machinate » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:21 pm

friend_kami wrote:i keep thinking, who will be the first one to make an automatic harmoniser using m4l and the vocoder?

and more importantly: can that be done?
harmonizer with max? yes, that can be done, and has been done as well. I do believe though that particularly harmonizing and real-time pitch stuff like that is best left for pedals - have you heard the TC stuff? Mindblowing.

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Post by friend_kami » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:39 pm

Machinate wrote:
friend_kami wrote:i keep thinking, who will be the first one to make an automatic harmoniser using m4l and the vocoder?

and more importantly: can that be done?
harmonizer with max? yes, that can be done, and has been done as well. I do believe though that particularly harmonizing and real-time pitch stuff like that is best left for pedals - have you heard the TC stuff? Mindblowing.
i have indeed, and it sounds very very good at that.
speaking of max and max for live, anyone has any info about whether or not you can use externals with m4l?

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Post by Machinate » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:46 pm

friend_kami wrote:speaking of max and max for live, anyone has any info about whether or not you can use externals with m4l?
yes, you can... which means fiddle~ will work too, and gizmo~ and pitch~ etc.

Java is also possible, Jitter as well. Full max, full msp, full Jitter... AND some live-specific objects.

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Post by friend_kami » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:48 pm

Machinate wrote:
friend_kami wrote:speaking of max and max for live, anyone has any info about whether or not you can use externals with m4l?
yes, you can... which means fiddle~ will work too, and gizmo~ and pitch~ etc.

Java is also possible, Jitter as well. Full max, full msp, full Jitter... AND some live-specific objects.
processing within live :D

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Post by Machinate » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:51 pm

friend_kami wrote:
Machinate wrote:
friend_kami wrote:speaking of max and max for live, anyone has any info about whether or not you can use externals with m4l?
yes, you can... which means fiddle~ will work too, and gizmo~ and pitch~ etc.

Java is also possible, Jitter as well. Full max, full msp, full Jitter... AND some live-specific objects.
processing within live :D
And chuck~ - and supercollider! The list of possibilities is VERY long 8)

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Post by friend_kami » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:54 pm

Machinate wrote:
friend_kami wrote:
Machinate wrote:yes, you can... which means fiddle~ will work too, and gizmo~ and pitch~ etc.

Java is also possible, Jitter as well. Full max, full msp, full Jitter... AND some live-specific objects.
processing within live :D
And chuck~ - and supercollider! The list of possibilities is VERY long 8)
tell me about it, the more i think about it the more my mouth waters.

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Post by phobik2000 » Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:03 am

Has anyone tested Reason's vocoder? I've always thought it could do everything you want to throw at it. But it could be outdated.

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