how to make a snare roll in ableton live 7?

mpk49guy · Post by **mpk49guy** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:17 pm

I am having trouble making a decent snare roll to transition choruses and versus on beats any help would be greatly appreciated thanx.

bosonHavoc · Post by **bosonHavoc** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:33 pm

here is the long answer.

http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments.html

http://www.drumrudiments.com/

bosonHavoc · Post by **bosonHavoc** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:40 pm

here is the short answer

http://www.espace-cubase.org/anglais/pa ... roulcaisse

its all about the accents and velocity.

a good multi sampled snare works best..

i think it really helps to get a drum pad and some sticks and practice the rudiments.
its very addictive and you'll be able to translate from your head to machine better.

mpk49guy · Post by **mpk49guy** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:37 pm

thanx I prefer the second one because I am using mpc pads also what is multi sampled snare?

bosonHavoc · Post by **bosonHavoc** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:06 pm

it would have multiple velocity layers.

it would have a sample of someone playing softer loaded into to a lower velocity layer and playing harder for a higher velocity... the more samples the more realistic it sounds and the more expressive you can be.

also having a left and right snare hit helps allot because they have a slight difference in sound pending on what hand you use.

you can trick it by using velocity (which will usually also control the volume) and setting up a second snare with a slight tweak to give it a different sound.. but not to much.. the difference is barley noticeable.

it also depends if your going for realism or not.
sometimes i like that machine gun when i do a roll.

another approach is to use beat repeat or an arp.

aisling · Post by **aisling** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:09 pm

bosonHavoc wrote:here is the long answer.

http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments.html

http://www.drumrudiments.com/

great info, thank you!

Moody · Post by **Moody** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:55 pm

Have you tried looking in the Drums folder of the Midi Effect Rack?

mpk49guy · Post by **mpk49guy** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:33 am

yeah I did use that drum roll but it is too short

mpk49guy · Post by **mpk49guy** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:34 am

I want like a long hiphop build up transition roll

maybe 1/2 to 1 bar long