APC40 for the Studio

steve-o · Post by **steve-o** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:19 am

Regarding using the mouse:

I'm pretty sure that you can use Charlie Robert's Control Aid to use any midi interface to navigate the Live browser, with some limitations of course.

I'm willing to bet that with M4L, we'll be able to hack the APC40 and otehr Live-native controllers to go into a "browser mode" for even more integrated browser navigation.

So I guess the answer is "M4L"

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:39 am

steve-o wrote:Regarding using the mouse:

I'm pretty sure that you can use Charlie Robert's Control Aid to use any midi interface to navigate the Live browser, with some limitations of course.

I'm willing to bet that with M4L, we'll be able to hack the APC40 and otehr Live-native controllers to go into a "browser mode" for even more integrated browser navigation.

So I guess the answer is "M4L"

using control aid to do keystrokes with midi goes like this in my experience.

1) spend about an hour trying to figure out how to set it up so that you can fully navigate the browser, since most of us don't know all the key combination's we'll need to begin with
2) get it all figured out and start tapping away, fully browsing with your midi controller and then you realize "I'm still looking at the computer to do this, and it's slower than a mouse"
3) realize that using a mouse makes way more sense

thats my experience anyway

steve-o · Post by **steve-o** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:46 am

Good point, JIF.

nowtime · Post by **nowtime** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:39 am

DJChrisPaul wrote:No midi out! would be nice to connect the BCR2000/BCF2000

Yeah, surprised about that. This lack of inter-connectivity limits its use as an all-in-one controller. Can't control hardware. Can't add a BCR (not enough knobs!) without a USB hub.

BeatPsychic · Post by **BeatPsychic** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:25 am

Chicle777

not quite the 16 x 16, but the other functions you mentioned... and he has a step sequencer in beta...

You could use a padKontrol, and

NativeKontrol ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cka0jOkc590

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlIrOmo_ ... F9&index=8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4GALo8- ... F9&index=4

http://www.nativekontrol.com/Products.html

Khazul · Post by **Khazul** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:08 am

Mehalic wrote:Thanks 3dot! Any chance you can share where you heard that from? I haven't seen anything from the Abes on the forum (although, trying to keep up with the threads is impossible).

Just want to know what my options are - although the APC40 is an amazing start!

Listening to the wording in the APC-40 video - it suggests that the APC-40 is just the first, or at least working with AKAI isnt an exclusive thing.

I thought they had worked with Vestax on the VCM-600 as well. The fact that more is being made of the APC-40 is probably to do with the whole Live 8 promo thing and the apparently deeper control integration whereas the VCM-600 pre-dates Live 8.

GT · Post by GT » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:25 am

I'm just dreaming about manipulating a step-filter with my hands in realtime (APC40 + MFL)... and stuffs like that...

Chicle777 · Post by **Chicle777** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:30 am

BeatPsychic wrote:Chicle777

not quite the 16 x 16, but the other functions you mentioned... and he has a step sequencer in beta...

You could use a padKontrol, and

NativeKontrol ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cka0jOkc590

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlIrOmo_ ... F9&index=8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4GALo8- ... F9&index=4

http://www.nativekontrol.com/Products.html

Shheeeeeeeeeaaattttt!!!

This is what I´m talking about and more than I expected. Very interesting!
Full control without touching a keyboard or mouse. I guess we´ll have to
wait for a 16x8 and 16x16 version when Akai gets the kickback from the 40´s.

Thanks BeatPsychic

Chicle777 · Post by **Chicle777** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:57 am

or the Lemur with MolamurV2...
http://www.vimeo.com/1334583

beatpoet · Post by **beatpoet** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:08 am

In the studio, I've been using, 2 trigger fingers and a Bitstream3x on mackie control to give me the 8 channel APC type functionality, but that means I have to have a Live template configured so it's always 4 audio, 4 midi to start. the apc will give the freedom to chop & change channels as I please and give scene triggers and 5 rows to trigger from, I previously only had 3+stop. The most important is a dedicated scene trigger. I could never give up a channel for that before. It's so easy to compose on a full bank of pads, i've used a monome on a full 8x8 in Live at times and it's what Live is made for. It's only when you're jamming on pads in Live that you realise what this program was actually built for. The ACP is the perfect studio tool

Zygi · Post by **Zygi** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:20 am

Chicle777 wrote:X/Y Pad anyone?

I'd really love to se that feature of live implemented somewhere properly.

naburo · Post by **naburo** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:02 pm

to my mind,
i was wondering the last days, if we need the APC 40 at all,
because the features we need, seem to be implemented in Live 8,
so did not we only have to wait,
´till someone is adjusting all features + stuff to the Akai Mpd 32 or the Padkontrol ?

Don´t get me wrong, i have some serious gearlust,
but i am not sure if i should order this thing, already having a MPD 32 at home.

cheers

Zygi · Post by **Zygi** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:01 pm

naburo wrote:to my mind,
i was wondering the last days, if we need the APC 40 at all,
because the features we need, seem to be implemented in Live 8,
so did not we only have to wait,
´till someone is adjusting all features + stuff to the Akai Mpd 32 or the Padkontrol ?

Don´t get me wrong, i have some serious gearlust,
but i am not sure if i should order this thing, already having a MPD 32 at home.

cheers

Speakin of gearlust - i think i'm gonna go for akai combo... mpd32 + apc40 + mpk25... crazyyyyyyyyyyyyy

I mean - i can see lots of different uses for apc & mpc coexisting in setup.

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