The facts: Not even worth pirating...

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The facts: Not even worth pirating...

Post by drunk on floor » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:03 am

Live 7: 200 features
Live 8; 220 features

Live 7: 14 updates
20 to 30 bug fixes per update = 420 bug fixes!

Twice as many bugs as features!

50 employees
about 10 bugs per employee!

52 weeks a year * 50 employees = 2600 man weeks
thats 13 weeks per feature!

Abelton or abletonot complete a job?

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Re: The facts: Not even worth pirating...

Post by Tone Deft » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:05 am

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Re: The facts: Not even worth pirating...

Post by cmreal04 » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:23 am

Epic first post :roll:

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Re: The facts: Not even worth pirating...

Post by waffle » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:23 am

Have you ever worked in professional software development on a large complex project? There's a lot of work that goes into adding a feature. A guy doesn't just sit down and just say "Ok, I'll change the warping engine today" and bang it out in 4 hours.

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Post by DRStudio » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:28 am

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Re: The facts: Not even worth pirating...

Post by LoopStationZebra » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:30 am

/cat pushing watermelon
I came for the :lol:
But stayed for the :x

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Post by v00d00ppl » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:30 am

Tone Deft wrote:Image

u murdered em with that.
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Post by aqua_tek » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:32 am

Go use Fruity Loops then. I heard Deadmau5 likes it

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Re: The facts: Not even worth pirating...

Post by arachnaut » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:39 am

I don't know how to reply to this adequately.

I worked at a company with software so large the source code filled a whole room. The software ran in the White House, in hospitals, in city and state government's offices, etc. 24x7. Truly redundant. It really worked.

Live isn't built to those standards, but it's still a big system.

It also has this problem of being built on a Mac and still having to run on a PC... but that's their choice.

I don't work in software anymore, I don't have the stamina.

I'm happy to buy Live and let them work out the problems. I'm worth it.

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Re: The facts: Not even worth pirating...

Post by Johnisfaster » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:41 am

arachnaut wrote:I don't know how to reply to this adequately.

I worked at a company with software so large the source code filled a whole room. The software ran in the White House, in hospitals, in city and state government's offices, etc. 24x7. Truly redundant. It really worked.

Live isn't built to those standards, but it's still a big system.

It also has this problem of being built on a Mac and still having to run on a PC... but that's their choice.

I don't work in software anymore, I don't have the stamina.

I'm happy to buy Live and let them work out the problems. I'm worth it.
how does code fill a room? did you print every bit of code on paper? seems to me like you could fit most of it on a TBdrive from walmart for about $119 ;)
It was as if someone shook up a 6 foot can of blood soda and suddenly popped the top.

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Re: The facts: Not even worth pirating...

Post by Angstrom » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:44 am

arachnaut wrote:I don't know how to reply to this adequately.
I worked at a company with software so large the source code filled a whole room. The software ran in the White House, in hospitals, in city and state government's offices, etc. 24x7. Truly redundant. It really worked.
Live isn't built to those standards, but it's still a big system.
It also has this problem of being built on a Mac and still having to run on a PC... but that's their choice.
I don't work in software anymore, I don't have the stamina.
I'm happy to buy Live and let them work out the problems. I'm worth it.
you have thought far too much about this. it's a troll post, on the internet.
next time post a picture and move on.

like this...
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Re: The facts: Not even worth pirating...

Post by bodhi71 » Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:17 am

arachnaut wrote:I don't know how to reply to this adequately.

I worked at a company with software so large the source code filled a whole room. The software ran in the White House, in hospitals, in city and state government's offices, etc. 24x7. Truly redundant. It really worked.

Live isn't built to those standards, but it's still a big system.

It also has this problem of being built on a Mac and still having to run on a PC... but that's their choice.

I don't work in software anymore, I don't have the stamina.

I'm happy to buy Live and let them work out the problems. I'm worth it.

Is this true? Was Live meant to run on Mac?
Does it run better on Mac?
What about like a BigMac?

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Re: The facts: Not even worth pirating...

Post by arachnaut » Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:37 am

Johnisfaster wrote:
arachnaut wrote:I don't know how to reply to this adequately.

I worked at a company with software so large the source code filled a whole room. The software ran in the White House, in hospitals, in city and state government's offices, etc. 24x7. Truly redundant. It really worked.

Live isn't built to those standards, but it's still a big system.

It also has this problem of being built on a Mac and still having to run on a PC... but that's their choice.

I don't work in software anymore, I don't have the stamina.

I'm happy to buy Live and let them work out the problems. I'm worth it.
how does code fill a room? did you print every bit of code on paper? seems to me like you could fit most of it on a TBdrive from walmart for about $119 ;)
Why do I bother trying to help you kids?

This was in 1978. Do you know how much hard drives costs back then - no wait, the Winchester hard drive, let alone the PC was still quite a bit away... The Moog, just a few years old. CDs, what the hell are they?

You really don't know how spoiled we are now, electronics and software are the only things going down in price year after year.

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Re: The facts: Not even worth pirating...

Post by Angstrom » Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:41 am

I was born in 1998, I can't even remember what a mobile phone was. My grandad talked about them I think

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Re: The facts: Not even worth pirating...

Post by arachnaut » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:04 am

Angstrom wrote: you have thought far too much about this. it's a troll post, on the internet.
next time post a picture and move on.
Right, how about this:

Me in 1980 building my first synthesizer. Yes, those are transistors, perhaps even a VTVM...

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