Whats up with Pitch Bend (midi evelope editor)

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jmore1988
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Whats up with Pitch Bend (midi evelope editor)

Post by jmore1988 » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:13 am

So I like to get midi files of my favorite music and import them into live and choose the instruments that I would like to play the music, the problem is that sometimes I'll get a midi file that has some pitch bend messages. The problem isnt the file itself it is Live. It seems that Live limits the the range of the bend. So when I play the file it sounds incorrect. Like the intro to black hole sun, the lead guitar is bending notes. But because Live's pitch bend editor limits the bend range, it sounds wrong. How do I get around this. How do I keep the correct pitch bend the creator of the midi file gave it.

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Re: Whats up with Pitch Bend (midi evelope editor)

Post by sporkles » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:25 am

You need to set the pitch bend limit on the instrument you're controlling with the MIDI clip - the "limit" in the midi editor
itself would be the standard PB range. For a MIDI guitar, the standard range is 2 semitones, I think.

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Re: Whats up with Pitch Bend (midi evelope editor)

Post by jmore1988 » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:10 am

sporkles wrote:You need to set the pitch bend limit on the instrument you're controlling with the MIDI clip - the "limit" in the midi editor
itself would be the standard PB range. For a MIDI guitar, the standard range is 2 semitones, I think.
Wait, I'm using Live 8, and I'v never seen that transpose box there or any box to set the limit of pb.

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Re: Whats up with Pitch Bend (midi evelope editor)

Post by stmaximus » Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:44 pm

It's not the midi clip dictating the range, it's the instrument itself.

Any serious softsynth or sampler will have a pitchbend range value. You just have to hunt for it. It's in every ableton instrument, and it should be on the instrument interface.

I like to keep mine at 12 semitones, or a whole octave.

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Re: Whats up with Pitch Bend (midi evelope editor)

Post by sporkles » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:50 pm

On Sampler, for instance, you'll find the pitch bend range parameter under the "midi" tab, and on Operator in the "pitch
shell". This is where you set the range - MIDI is just MIDI;the values are universal - it's what you tell the instrument to
do with the MIDI signal that matters.

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Re: Whats up with Pitch Bend (midi evelope editor)

Post by jmore1988 » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:17 pm

thanks for the help guys
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Re: Whats up with Pitch Bend (midi evelope editor)

Post by Ravloo » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:58 pm

sporkles wrote:...and on Operator in the "pitch
shell". This is where you set the range - MIDI is just MIDI;the values are universal - it's what you tell the instrument to
do with the MIDI signal that matters.
Can someone point out literally where the pitch bend range is on Operator? Can't seem to find it..

Also can't find it for the Analog synth.

Thanks all.

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Re: Whats up with Pitch Bend (midi evelope editor)

Post by 8O » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:22 am

Ravloo wrote:Can someone point out literally where the pitch bend range is on Operator? Can't seem to find it..
If you click in the lower right hand area - the Algorithm section, where the Time, Tone and Volume knobs are - then the centre display now gives you pitch bend range options.
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Re: Whats up with Pitch Bend (midi evelope editor)

Post by Dexes » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:27 am

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Re: Whats up with Pitch Bend (midi evelope editor)

Post by Ravloo » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:58 pm

Thanks fellas!

That was kinda like finding the ketchup in the refrigerator's bottom drawer ;)

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Re: Whats up with Pitch Bend (midi evelope editor)

Post by 3dot... » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:12 pm

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[APPLAUSE] ...really went out of your way there ! :D
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