Using Apple Jam Packs with Live

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gjm
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Using Apple Jam Packs with Live

Post by gjm » Tue May 05, 2009 10:12 am

I would like to use some of my Garage Band Jam Pack files in Live but I don't know where to look for them on my mac :oops: (new user). Has anyone done this, and could you give me some clues as to where to look for them so I can set up Lives browser?

Thanks.
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Re: Using Apple Jam Packs with Live

Post by ChrisSummer » Tue May 05, 2009 10:22 am

I would like to
you can find the GB Library normaly
HD > Library > Audio > Apple Loops

but in my version this are .caf files that you need to convert befor use in Live to aif or wav.
I'm searching for a batchexport for this (on Mac os)

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Re: Using Apple Jam Packs with Live

Post by gjm » Tue May 05, 2009 10:42 am

ChrisSummer wrote:I would like to
you can find the GB Library normaly
HD > Library > Audio > Apple Loops

but in my version this are .caf files that you need to convert befor use in Live to aif or wav.
I'm searching for a batchexport for this (on Mac os)
Ok, so now I am confused. If I follow your suggested library path I do indeed find a bunch of .caf files. But my Jam Pack box has AIFF on the side. Could it be possible that because I have iLife 09, that the loops supplied with this are the more recent .caf files (which I believe are similar to the Jam Pack content of Logic Pro 8 ), and that the above mentioned .caf files are not the actual Jam Pack files I installed from the disk? Could there be another place where sample content could be stored?
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Re: Using Apple Jam Packs with Live

Post by ChrisSummer » Tue May 05, 2009 10:51 am

hmmmmm yes there could be an other place

maybe
HD > User > Library > Audio > Apple Loops

or
HD > Library > Application Support > Garageband
( on my system there is just a symlink to the first posted directory)

else you can try spotlight if you know a samples name (File name)
spotlight will show you the place

sorry for my bad english

.caf files got some more meta informations then aif - this meta is used in GB and Logic to match BPM and Harmony etc..
this is the only difference to the aif's (i think)

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Re: Using Apple Jam Packs with Live

Post by gjm » Tue May 05, 2009 11:15 am

Just found it

HD>Library>Application Support>Garage Band>Apple Loops>Jam Pack 3 Rhythm Section>.aif files galore

So I definitely think the .caf files are from iLife 09.

Thanks ChrisSummer for your help.

To late to try these tonight with Live, but will have a go tommorrow.

Nite Nite. :D
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Re: Using Apple Jam Packs with Live

Post by swishniak » Tue May 05, 2009 11:21 am

another way is to find the preset files (for the exs synth for example) and dump drag n drop into an instance of sampler. this should automatically convert them into live compatible patches. . doesnt work for more complex orchestral type patches though.

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Re: Using Apple Jam Packs with Live

Post by vicz » Tue May 05, 2009 11:45 am

You can use SoundConverter http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/a ... erter.html to bulk convert .caf files to aiff .

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Re: Using Apple Jam Packs with Live

Post by ChrisSummer » Tue May 05, 2009 12:05 pm

Oh nice tool
thank you vicz :mrgreen:


edited :

hm is there any freeware for batch converting ?

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Re: Using Apple Jam Packs with Live

Post by vicz » Fri May 08, 2009 11:56 pm

ChrisSummer wrote:Oh nice tool
thank you vicz :mrgreen:


edited :

hm is there any freeware for batch converting ?
Not that I could find, not even in the Pirate Bay shop...

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Re: Using Apple Jam Packs with Live

Post by gjm » Sat May 09, 2009 12:03 am

gjm wrote:Just found it

HD>Library>Application Support>Garage Band>Apple Loops>Jam Pack 3 Rhythm Section>.aif files galore

So I definitely think the .caf files are from iLife 09.

Thanks ChrisSummer for your help.

To late to try these tonight with Live, but will have a go tommorrow.

Nite Nite. :D
Works perfectly! :D
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Re: Using Apple Jam Packs with Live

Post by gjm » Sat May 09, 2009 12:05 am

vicz wrote:You can use SoundConverter http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/a ... erter.html to bulk convert .caf files to aiff .
I tried to find either a website or someway to pay for this, and I can't. When I click on the above link there is no information for this :?

Also, there was no instructions... nothing :|
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Re: Using Apple Jam Packs with Live

Post by vicz » Sat May 09, 2009 10:30 pm

gjm wrote:
vicz wrote:You can use SoundConverter http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/a ... erter.html to bulk convert .caf files to aiff .
I tried to find either a website or someway to pay for this, and I can't. When I click on the above link there is no information for this :?

Also, there was no instructions... nothing :|
From the FAQ (in the Help menu):
How do I buy SoundConverter?

When you use a feature that requires a license, the license panel will appear with instructions on how to buy.

Do I need to be connected to the internet to use SoundConverter?

No. You only need to be connected to purchase it.

What comes with the license?

The license removes the 500K file limitation. It is only for the machine and logic board it was purchased on. All upgrades of SoundConverter are free for that machine, but if you want to run SoundConverter on a different machine you will need to purchase another license. Please only purchase a license if you are ok with this.

Where's my license key?

If you've paid, just hit the "I've paid" button the next time the license panel appears and it will autofetch your key.
It is a bit odd isn't it? Cost USD14 by the way. You can pay with Paypal, or see here http://www.dekorte.com/projects/shareware/faq/

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Re: Using Apple Jam Packs with Live

Post by gjm » Sat May 09, 2009 10:47 pm

vicz wrote:From the FAQ (in the Help menu):

It is a bit odd isn't it? Cost USD14 by the way. You can pay with Paypal, or see here http://www.dekorte.com/projects/shareware/faq/
:oops: :oops: Duh. I have had this macbook for a couple of months now, and I am so used to looking (not looking) at certain places on the screen. I still get tricked when closing a program, there is still an information bar across the top of the screen. I totally missed this... and the help menu for sound converter. Reminds me of when I first drove in North America. It wasn't the big things like driving on the wrong side of the road, but little things like where I automatically expected to see certain types of road signs. :roll: MAC NOOB

Thanks vicz. 8)
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Re: Using Apple Jam Packs with Live

Post by OvalGuy » Mon May 11, 2009 2:59 am

I use AudioFinder to convert CAF files. I select the files I'm interested in and choose Convert to AIFF (or WAV) from the file menu.

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Re: Using Apple Jam Packs with Live

Post by swishniak » Mon May 11, 2009 10:26 am

im confused by this thread; the thing i always found difficult abouty jam pack material was getting the exs. presets converted (multi samples of aif.s) into sampler. does anyone have any tips on this?

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