Ableton Live - Ultimate Hiphop tool...why?...folow me pls...

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Ableton Live - Ultimate Hiphop tool...why?...folow me pls...

Post by Silence » Mon May 18, 2009 12:13 am

So I've read a couple of "can you use live for hip hop/r&b" threads here and there and i cant see how ppl
only think its a techno/house tool...ok so i get that many of the users that ppl know of are into those styles
mostly because of the performance aspect of it but i was playing around with the Live 8 demo, trying to figure out if
its worth the cash...and all i´ve done these past 2 weeks has been hip hop/urban music and such....
granted..I've recently gotten the padKontrol and i feel that the combo is like an mpc on steroids but still...

i mean you can do a shitload of sampling and sample manipulation and then start fucking around with the arrangement...
the only thing i would think that a daw like Cubase does better is cutting and editing in arrange view...other than that i feel that
padKontrol/Triggerfinger/Mpd + Ableton Live = mpc replacement and muuuch more....


yeah yeah...i know...the sequencer in mpc is supposed to be the shizznit... i´ve heard that and well...i guess i hope that someone will tell me the difference and call me a retard


im lé tired....
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Re: Ableton Live - Ultimate Hiphop tool...why?...folow me pls...

Post by kb420 » Mon May 18, 2009 1:17 am

The only benefits that I see a MPC has over Live is that you don't have to use a mouse, and there is no latency.
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Re: Ableton Live - Ultimate Hiphop tool...why?...folow me pls...

Post by starving student » Mon May 18, 2009 2:57 am

for sure Live + padkontrol is the mpc killer bar none I think even Just Blaze said so, A real bigbeat battle would be between Live+padkontrol and the Native Instruments Maschine then I'd be like awwwww shizzy
it's on now! I don't know who would when though it would be just too close to call, check out this clip of my homey doin his thing rockin those block rockin beats

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwRG0Ki7Yb0


MPCs are dead Like vinyL

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Re: Ableton Live - Ultimate Hiphop tool...why?...folow me pls...

Post by pulsoc » Mon May 18, 2009 3:41 am

starving student wrote: then I'd be like awwwww shizzy
it's on now! I don't know who would when though it would be just too close to call, check out this clip of my homey doin his thing rockin those block rockin beats

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwRG0Ki7Yb0
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Re: Ableton Live - Ultimate Hiphop tool...why?...folow me pls...

Post by tlennon » Mon May 18, 2009 4:45 am

That has got to be one of the worst videos I've ever seen. WTF.... my 2 year old can do that. Was that suppose to represent talent/art/imagination? Is this where future artist are heading. OMG!

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Re: Ableton Live - Ultimate Hiphop tool...why?...folow me pls...

Post by nuxnamon » Mon May 18, 2009 4:49 am

starving student wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwRG0Ki7Yb0


MPCs are dead Like vinyL
can't believe i fell for that :evil:

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Re: Ableton Live - Ultimate Hiphop tool...why?...folow me pls...

Post by starving student » Mon May 18, 2009 8:03 am

nuxnamon wrote:
starving student wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwRG0Ki7Yb0


MPCs are dead Like vinyL
can't believe i fell for that :evil:
:mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Ableton Live - Ultimate Hiphop tool...why?...folow me pls...

Post by frequentare » Mon May 18, 2009 8:29 am

this is a dope hip hop mixtape completely made with ableton - actually 2 laptops running ableton sync'd via midi - really really dope .

http://soundcloud.com/joeyparanoia/zee-hip-hop

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Re: Ableton Live - Ultimate Hiphop tool...why?...folow me pls...

Post by TITBAG » Mon May 18, 2009 9:07 am

Silence wrote:So I've read a couple of "can you use live for hip hop/r&b" threads here and there and i cant see how ppl
only think its a techno/house tool...ok so i get that many of the users that ppl know of are into those styles
mostly because of the performance aspect of it but i was playing around with the Live 8 demo, trying to figure out if
its worth the cash...and all i´ve done these past 2 weeks has been hip hop/urban music and such....
granted..I've recently gotten the padKontrol and i feel that the combo is like an mpc on steroids but still...

i mean you can do a shitload of sampling and sample manipulation and then start fucking around with the arrangement...
the only thing i would think that a daw like Cubase does better is cutting and editing in arrange view...other than that i feel that
padKontrol/Triggerfinger/Mpd + Ableton Live = mpc replacement and muuuch more....


yeah yeah...i know...the sequencer in mpc is supposed to be the shizznit... i´ve heard that and well...i guess i hope that someone will tell me the difference and call me a retard


im lé tired....
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Re: Ableton Live - Ultimate Hiphop tool...why?...folow me pls...

Post by kb420 » Mon May 18, 2009 10:10 am

tlennon wrote:That has got to be one of the worst videos I've ever seen. WTF.... my 2 year old can do that. Was that suppose to represent talent/art/imagination? Is this where future artist are heading. OMG!

Terrence

+1



I'm sick of that guy. He sits there and bangs on Maschine, and he's as offbeat as it gets. Someone please teach him how to program a beat.
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Re: Ableton Live - Ultimate Hiphop tool...why?...folow me pls...

Post by the_antagonist » Mon May 18, 2009 10:13 am

techno is just a glorified hiphop (n' vise versa) the only problem one would have with ableton for hiphop is that your tempo defaults as 120.


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Re: Ableton Live - Ultimate Hiphop tool...why?...folow me pls...

Post by doubleeast » Mon May 18, 2009 1:19 pm

"vinyl is dead" ???

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Re: Ableton Live - Ultimate Hiphop tool...why?...folow me pls...

Post by Pitch Black » Mon May 18, 2009 1:24 pm

the_antagonist wrote:the only problem one would have with ableton for hiphop is that your tempo defaults as 120.
Your tempo defaults to the BPM set in your Default Song.

Preferences > File/Folder > Save Current Set as Default

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Re: Ableton Live - Ultimate Hiphop tool...why?...folow me pls...

Post by sunaivod » Mon May 18, 2009 1:31 pm

I make metal/dnb/jungle with ableton live.

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