Volume envelope for Ableton?

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Volume envelope for Ableton?

Post by Jekblad » Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:47 pm

i know i know, M4L.

anything i can use NOW? I'm using an auto-pan to simulate a slow attack, but that's less than awesome, as it's tied to the timeline vs the input.

thoughts?
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Re: Volume envelope for Ableton?

Post by Da hand » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:15 pm

Sorry, I have no idea what you are asking? There are already two levels of volume envelopes in Ableton.

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Re: Volume envelope for Ableton?

Post by Jekblad » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:37 pm

good call dude, this is vague now that i realize what I'm NOT asking

the same way simpler has a volume env to control ASDR. It's if i wanted to put that on a snare drum SAMPLE. I guess i could use simpler for that too... The concept i'm looking for is THAT but with audio effects, so it's easy to drop in after whatever inst you have.

the idea is from this
http://audio.tutsplus.com/tutorials/pro ... -own-pads/
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Re: Volume envelope for Ableton?

Post by Tone Deft » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:47 pm

run it through a dummy clip with an envelope?
use the attack on a compressor?
hand edit the sample and be done with it?
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Re: Volume envelope for Ableton?

Post by master swing » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:53 pm

Are you looking for an envelope follower?

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Re: Volume envelope for Ableton?

Post by scientist » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:57 pm

destroy fx midi gater has AD settings iirc...not sure if it has sustain, so you may have to hold the midi note for as long as you want your clip to play through it.

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Re: Volume envelope for Ableton?

Post by Johnisfaster » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:00 pm

guitar rig 3 has an envelope follower if I'm not mistaken
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Re: Volume envelope for Ableton?

Post by master swing » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:17 pm

try gate.

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Re: Volume envelope for Ableton?

Post by Jekblad » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:41 pm

gate doesn't work like this afaik

GR3 def has env follower, but i have the cheap version which does not :(

destroy fx totally cool, but lookin for an audio effect.

about to try the comp thing. I totally was trying that but i didn't get it to work. trying again.
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Re: Volume envelope for Ableton?

Post by Tone Deft » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:44 pm

IIRC gate has an inverted function to it, the signal does pass until it gets to a certain value. then adjust its attack to taste.
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Re: Volume envelope for Ableton?

Post by master swing » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:48 pm

ableton gate also has flip mode

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Re: Volume envelope for Ableton?

Post by Jekblad » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:54 pm

HOLD UP

gate totally works, but it's a bit limited. It'll do the fade in like i want, but not a killer long one. SWEET
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Re: Volume envelope for Ableton?

Post by Hermanus » Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:18 pm

mount a rack with Gate and compressor... + whatever you need to enhance

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Re: Volume envelope for Ableton?

Post by scientist » Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:22 pm

Jekblad wrote:destroy fx totally cool, but lookin for an audio effect.
the name's misleading, it works on audio, just triggered by midi. throw it on an audio track, then set a midi track "to" the audio track. still a workaround in the sense that you'll have to trigger the audio clip with the same message as the midi gate.

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Re: Volume envelope for Ableton?

Post by Jekblad » Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:37 pm

hermanus can you explain a bit? i can get a slower attack time w/this combo?
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