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Post by netchaiev » Sun Feb 06, 2005 1:27 am

12mics,
I dunno what is your point about immigration, but your links have articles contradictory about the subject.. some are so lame not funny... do you know how to read???
You're just a COP. Gotcha!!!!! :twisted:
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Post by mcconaghy » Sun Feb 06, 2005 1:29 am

reset wrote:Well,

having recently obtained my us green card (finally), I have to say that the whole US immigration procedure/policy is pretty humiliating.

When I came back from our honeymoon in Costa Rica we had to enter through Houston International Airport. Aside from the Hitler like statue of Bush in the terminal, the immigration officer took me in their little office because they had to adjust striaghten out my visa. In said office there was a poster hanging with the twin towers falling and the line "...never again..". That I say is pretty fucked up. Almost worse than the border between eatern and western Germany used to be.

However, I did have somewhat better experiences at other ports of entry: NY, Atlanta, Detroit and Charlotte were ok. No hassles, no bullshit.

Philadelphia on the other hand tried to pull a cavity search on me. Take my advice: avoid philly.

just my $0.02.
Brit with a Green Card here. So far I've had 3 cavity searches at DC airport, and one at Philadelphia. Must be the people there, cause I've never had problems at New York, LA, Atlanta or Nashville.

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Post by netchaiev » Sun Feb 06, 2005 1:32 am

Amazing, never happened to me (NYC)... Got a passport now :wink:

btw: 12mics link to worldnetdaily, check the fucked up title, mixing two things to draw attention (/conclusion) :

" Illegals estimated to number 18-20 million
Underground economy costing IRS $311 billion in unpaid taxes annually"


Illegals is one thing(low wages) ," underground economy" well, it's illegal gambling, everything sold w/out taxes, maffias, etc... anyway they conclude in the article that granting papers to illegals would be dangerous (benefits for poors!!!!)
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Post by Machinesworking » Sun Feb 06, 2005 1:55 am

12micsn1 wrote: Wasnt the media who were openly biased against GWB? An still 3 million more people voted for him. You definitely dont know what your talking about.
Just a comment on this quote. About two months before the election both Time and Newsweek had GWB on the cover in these JFK like noble poses, with headlines about his singularity of vision. Right then and there I knew GWB was going to win the election, and it was simply because the two magazines that 90% of the country sees every day in the checkout lines at grocery stores across the nation had just painted GWB as this historic figure. Nevermind the article, that doesn't matter one bit, it's the image that was presented.
Kerry's headlines quote were more of the "what are his opinions?" thing the media had been doing for months..
I'm trying to figure out how that makes the media openly biased against GWB? :?

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Post by tobie » Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:05 am

Rx wrote: with 'dance' being a codeword for drugs, sodomy and other un-American activities.
LOL!!!!

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Post by FaX-01 » Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:30 am

12micsn1 wrote:That DJ guy whos pissed can whine and bitch all he wants but there are reasons why things are the way they are. I dont think people coming to the US really understand why the US policy is so strict for entering here. The US not only has a problem with possible terrorist but also with illegals crossing over the borders for work. Both problems have a big impact on the US economy and social system. Most people outside the US dont have the whole picture to look at or care about doing so. Its not your problem right?
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Oh and illegal immigration and terrorism isn't a problem for any other country in the slightest either ..... :roll: pfffffft get out from under your rock and give us a break.
The rest of the world just isn't running around acting paranoid and irrationally nationalistic as far as I can see. :?
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Post by smutek » Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:34 am

This is my opinion.

Our president is a piece of shit. God only knows what damge he will do in these next four years. The rest of the world has good reason to be angry and afraid. I do not blame Laurent.

I was so disgusted after the election that I just started to tune everything out. Atleast as much as I am able to.

Things will get much worse here.

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I'll make sure they're Christian too

Ku Klux Klan will control you
Still you think it's natural
Nigger knockin' for the master race
Still you wear the happy face

You closed your eyes, can't happen here
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Join the army or you will pay

Yeah, that's it. Just relax.
Have another drink, few more pretzels, little more MSG.
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Lock your doors. Close your mind.
It's time for the two-minute warning.

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They'll draft you and they'll jail your niece

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heh..

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Post by 12micsn1 » Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:49 am

Let me go back my lastpost I said. I did a Google Search an I found the info to back up my statement on why the US has the policies they do. Excuse me for taking mainstream websites as a source of information show my example from the various media outlets. Most people relate better to the mainstream media correct? A couple of news reports probably contradict each other thats call "spin news". That goes on everyday maybe the reason why people have conflicting view points an cant agree.

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Post by jahnlay » Sun Feb 06, 2005 3:51 pm

No, most people delve deeper or past the mainstream media, getting all the facts and opinions before making up their minds!
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Post by conny » Sun Feb 06, 2005 6:03 pm

Don't you worry, it's for a cause
Feeding global corporations' claws
IMHO I think this is whats it's about. Economy disguised as politcs.
And we fighting each other is great, because then we may not see the connections underneath our feet.

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Post by noisetonepause » Sun Feb 06, 2005 6:44 pm

12micsn1 wrote:That DJ guy whos pissed can whine and bitch all he wants but there are reasons why things are the way they are. I dont think people coming to the US really understand why the US policy is so strict for entering here. The US not only has a problem with possible terrorist but also with illegals crossing over the borders for work. Both problems have a big impact on the US economy and social system. Most people outside the US dont have the whole picture to look at or care about doing so. Its not your problem right? For the most part, as long as problems like this dont occur on your soil,"do you think any government is going to implement anything?" Maybe, we should all go out an test every nations government or monarchy with terrorist bent on mass destruction an see what happens. Sounds like a great idea. NOTT!!! If I was a suspected terrorist would you want to know everything about me entering your country. Especially, if im capable of such a act that occured on 911? I know thats a "yes" even though I cant hear you say it out loud. I wish the rules were different but I rather see this policy in place then knowing nothing was being done since 911. It took 3,000 people to die to for the US to make real change of its policy. I feel this guys pain about not wanting give out his personal information but its all comes down to security good or bad policy that it has become. Wouldnt you agree?
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Post by Zakari Luk » Sun Feb 06, 2005 6:46 pm

12micsn1 wrote:Let me go back my lastpost I said. I did a Google Search an I found the info to back up my statement on why the US has the policies they do. Excuse me for taking mainstream websites as a source of information show my example from the various media outlets
like i said, a spoon-fed mentality from the propagandized mainstream media elite. i think you want to stay above the water in this debate, you should go watch outfoxed, control room, and farenheit 911.
12micsn1 wrote: Most people relate better to the mainstream media correct?
that is your assumption, i think you should get out of your cozy american mentality and see how the world really is. go and befriend people from all types of cultures and backgrounds, and see that the majority of the world does not relate to the small minded american mentality.
12micsn1 wrote:A couple of news reports probably contradict each other thats call "spin news". That goes on everyday maybe the reason why people have conflicting view points an cant agree.
and the teapot is calling the kettle black. no offense but you really need to open up your mind, and explore things. you are not searching for truth, you are instead just accepting whatever the bully on the block tells you to. you are living in fear.

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Post by Zakari Luk » Sun Feb 06, 2005 6:50 pm

noisetonepause wrote: Man erhabe? Ya ibn al-sharmu-----...

-Paws
what is that in english? is it along the lines of kissumuk?

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Post by noisetonepause » Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:12 pm

First bit's Arabic for 'Who's a terrorist?'.

"Ibn al-sharm..." I'd rather not translate, as it's not nice and I shouldn't have said it in the first place. But if I tell you that Ibn Mohammed means son of Mohammed I'm sure you can figure it out...

I've given up on arguments BTW. Much too cynical now. On the slippery slope towards growing a beard and getting a gun or flying lessons*, but what can you do...

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*Yes yes, tasteless joke. Go away.

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Post by mike holiday » Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:23 pm

MrYellow wrote:You've got me inspired :-D

http://www.thebots.net/GWBushSampleArchive.htm

Enjoy!

-Ben
thank you so much..i'v been looking for this and never expected it all to be in one place!!

ahh since eveyone is postin news links here goes....
I was plesently suprissed to wake up to a small victory today!

http://adn.com/front/story/6128939p-6010265c.html

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