Certainly.scientist wrote:for a sci-fi flick with well crafted social commentary, imo planet of the apes is a million times better. still the one to beat.
I believe this touched on far more contemporarily relevant issues though.
Certainly.scientist wrote:for a sci-fi flick with well crafted social commentary, imo planet of the apes is a million times better. still the one to beat.
LOFA wrote:Right. Exactly. Well-put my friendWaveRider wrote:yeah great movie in the genre.... great form and message.
The way I saw it, it's really a metaphor about refugee camps under NATO or UN authority. The aliens live like Palestinians or when it happened in Bosnia or in Sudan right now. That is like life is under those conditions.
ultimately it's about total bureaucratic control of your life by NATO or UN. Where do you live, fines for everything, forced birth control, deprived of any way to earn decent wage, etc.. some humans live under that regime today. But it's alien to us, especially because lack of reporting by the corporate media.
The film they even show how rotten the system is inside the MNU (the main character is under qualified but promoted because he is the son-in-law of the big boss) much like real world scandals in the UN... a class of bureaucrats live off the unfortunate they are supposed to help (ex petrol-for-food program in Irak)
...the fact that it is set in South Africa is even more striking. They lived under apartheid, pretty much like in the movie.![]()
Not to over-simplify it, but to me they created a module where they used aliens to show how inhuman we are.
beats me wrote: Watching the main human kept making me think I was watching the Pink Panther with the ineptitude but without the laughs.
It's like saying Jessica Simpson is the thinking man's Britney Spears. Shit is shit.
planet of the apes, man!: racism, class-ism and social hierarchy, science vs politicized religion, environmentalism, the cold war / nuclear holocaust, etc. etc. i don't see how any of those are outdated issues...if anything they more important than ever.LOFA wrote:Certainly.scientist wrote:for a sci-fi flick with well crafted social commentary, imo planet of the apes is a million times better. still the one to beat.
I believe this touched on far more contemporarily relevant issues though.
yes! that movie is great. the first time i watched it i had no idea it was anything more than a stupid action flick.WaveRider wrote:...Verhoven did the same trick in Starship Troopers.
scientist wrote:planet of the apes, man!: racism, class-ism and social hierarchy, science vs politicized religion, environmentalism, the cold war / nuclear holocaust, etc. etc. i don't see how any of those are outdated issues...if anything they more important than ever.LOFA wrote:Certainly.scientist wrote:for a sci-fi flick with well crafted social commentary, imo planet of the apes is a million times better. still the one to beat.
I believe this touched on far more contemporarily relevant issues though.
But it's been well documented on here by yourself that you like movies that suck. So it's really hard to tell which side of the fence you are on this one.aqua_tek wrote:Everyone thinks they're the most elite film critics here. It's hilariously annoying.
I'll add my 2 cents. Just saw d9 today and thought it was great. I don't feel the need to write an entire page to explain why.
Well, then we'll just agree that you're wrong on this oneaqua_tek wrote:Touché. Bending my own words agaisnt me, well done. However I have to rebut that.
it's not that all the movies I like are bad. I just like a bunch of flicks, some of which are bad. See the dif?
Even when I have admitted to having a broad range of films I can like, I can also tell which ones among these would be generally accepted as being good. I would say D9 is one of those. But that's just my opinion. And you know what they say about opinions and assholes...
The Leveller wrote:Wow, a weird shaped dead coral with sh!t stuck to it. Proof indeed of supernatural abilities.