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Re: District 9

Post by LOFA » Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:33 pm

scientist wrote:for a sci-fi flick with well crafted social commentary, imo planet of the apes is a million times better. still the one to beat.
Certainly.

I believe this touched on far more contemporarily relevant issues though.

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Re: District 9

Post by WaveRider » Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:51 pm

LOFA wrote:
WaveRider wrote:yeah great movie in the genre.... great form and message.

The way I saw it, it's really a metaphor about refugee camps under NATO or UN authority. The aliens live like Palestinians or when it happened in Bosnia or in Sudan right now. That is like life is under those conditions.

ultimately it's about total bureaucratic control of your life by NATO or UN. Where do you live, fines for everything, forced birth control, deprived of any way to earn decent wage, etc.. some humans live under that regime today. But it's alien to us, especially because lack of reporting by the corporate media.

The film they even show how rotten the system is inside the MNU (the main character is under qualified but promoted because he is the son-in-law of the big boss) much like real world scandals in the UN... a class of bureaucrats live off the unfortunate they are supposed to help (ex petrol-for-food program in Irak)

...the fact that it is set in South Africa is even more striking. They lived under apartheid, pretty much like in the movie.
Right. Exactly. Well-put my friend :)

Not to over-simplify it, but to me they created a module where they used aliens to show how inhuman we are.

thanks! and I agree on that point. Verhoven did the same trick in Starship Troopers. I read an interview, he was telling he showed a facist society but made it seem acceptable because the enemy was threatening and non-human. The point is that facist societies always de-humanize the opponents so hurting them becomes acceptable. now media de-humanize our "enemies" (Iraq, Afghanistan) so hurting them is not important and not a crime (collateral damage, unreported civilian casualties in mass)

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Re: District 9

Post by WaveRider » Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:54 pm

beats me wrote: Watching the main human kept making me think I was watching the Pink Panther with the ineptitude but without the laughs.

It's like saying Jessica Simpson is the thinking man's Britney Spears. Shit is shit.

he was showing how inept, absurd, STUPID bureaucrats can be when they are in a position of power


important message in these days of EU, UN, and american integration

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Re: District 9

Post by scientist » Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:55 pm

LOFA wrote:
scientist wrote:for a sci-fi flick with well crafted social commentary, imo planet of the apes is a million times better. still the one to beat.
Certainly.

I believe this touched on far more contemporarily relevant issues though.
planet of the apes, man!: racism, class-ism and social hierarchy, science vs politicized religion, environmentalism, the cold war / nuclear holocaust, etc. etc. i don't see how any of those are outdated issues...if anything they more important than ever.

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Re: District 9

Post by scientist » Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:58 pm

WaveRider wrote:...Verhoven did the same trick in Starship Troopers.
yes! that movie is great. the first time i watched it i had no idea it was anything more than a stupid action flick.

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Re: District 9

Post by LOFA » Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:24 pm

scientist wrote:
LOFA wrote:
scientist wrote:for a sci-fi flick with well crafted social commentary, imo planet of the apes is a million times better. still the one to beat.
Certainly.

I believe this touched on far more contemporarily relevant issues though.
planet of the apes, man!: racism, class-ism and social hierarchy, science vs politicized religion, environmentalism, the cold war / nuclear holocaust, etc. etc. i don't see how any of those are outdated issues...if anything they more important than ever.

We are not disagreeing. District 9 just seems catered to the immediate present.
I am not sure that I can back that up atm because I'm sick and lethargic

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Re: District 9

Post by Anubis » Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:31 am

This movie was kinda like a remake of Starship Troopers. Comedy, guns and space bugs. :roll:
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Re: District 9

Post by LoopStationZebra » Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:39 am

my god. it just keeps getting worse and worse.
I came for the :lol:
But stayed for the :x

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Re: District 9

Post by ghast » Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:53 pm

I very much wanted this movie to be great. It starts out with a great basic premise, but then it completely abandons any and all intelligence to become just another run and shoot popcorn movie. Go see Inglorious Basterds instead.

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Re: District 9

Post by aqua_tek » Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:14 pm

Everyone thinks they're the most elite film critics here. It's hilariously annoying.

I'll add my 2 cents. Just saw d9 today and thought it was great. I don't feel the need to write an entire page to explain why.

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Re: District 9

Post by beats me » Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:17 pm

aqua_tek wrote:Everyone thinks they're the most elite film critics here. It's hilariously annoying.

I'll add my 2 cents. Just saw d9 today and thought it was great. I don't feel the need to write an entire page to explain why.
But it's been well documented on here by yourself that you like movies that suck. So it's really hard to tell which side of the fence you are on this one.

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Re: District 9

Post by aqua_tek » Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:36 pm

Touché. Bending my own words agaisnt me, well done. However I have to rebut that.

it's not that all the movies I like are bad. I just like a bunch of flicks, some of which are bad. See the dif?

Even when I have admitted to having a broad range of films I can like, I can also tell which ones among these would be generally accepted as being good. I would say D9 is one of those. But that's just my opinion. And you know what they say about opinions and assholes...

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Re: District 9

Post by beats me » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:16 am

aqua_tek wrote:Touché. Bending my own words agaisnt me, well done. However I have to rebut that.

it's not that all the movies I like are bad. I just like a bunch of flicks, some of which are bad. See the dif?

Even when I have admitted to having a broad range of films I can like, I can also tell which ones among these would be generally accepted as being good. I would say D9 is one of those. But that's just my opinion. And you know what they say about opinions and assholes...
Well, then we'll just agree that you're wrong on this one :)

I'm still your biggest fan in the San Jose metro area though.

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Re: District 9

Post by simpleton » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:30 am

I heard there's some inter-species sex in this one? :P
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Re: District 9

Post by Mint Invader » Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:11 am

Because Whatever.

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