Time Signatures
Re: Time Signatures
I’m pitching in here on the off chance the Abes are reading. Count me in with the very disappointed crowd. I’d grown excited about Move but now have serious reservations given that it’s locked into 4/4.
Time signatures are a fundamental aspect of music. I’ve been using Note since it first came out as I’m a long time iOS music maker. I’m on the beta and eagerly scan the release notes for the addition of time sigs at each release , but no go.
One of the big selling points of Move to me is that it captures initial ideas quickly and naturally via live playing. Many of my ideas are in time sigs other than 4/4 rendering Note and Move severely limited
They are like a word processor that only allows you to write business memos.
Time signatures are a fundamental aspect of music. I’ve been using Note since it first came out as I’m a long time iOS music maker. I’m on the beta and eagerly scan the release notes for the addition of time sigs at each release , but no go.
One of the big selling points of Move to me is that it captures initial ideas quickly and naturally via live playing. Many of my ideas are in time sigs other than 4/4 rendering Note and Move severely limited
They are like a word processor that only allows you to write business memos.
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chapelier fou
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Re: Time Signatures
Same. It’s still here in the studio, waiting to be useful.
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Curtis Fred
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Re: Time Signatures
Plus 1 for time signatures. It's not right without them. 3/4 isn't just for waltzes. Please...
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chapelier fou
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Re: Time Signatures
What’s wrong with waltzes anyway ?
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Re: Time Signatures
Time signatures are essential! I almost never use exclusively 4/4, I'm usually in 12/8 because you can do both!
Re: Time Signatures
It may come as a surprise that I entirely agree with you, seeing as I’ve often come to the defense of the new musical practitioners on here.
The time signature argument has been clouded by presumptions, insult, provocation, and grasping theory. It’s important to remember that especially with such an accessible device we share this community with newcomers. There has been some condescension that is entirely unnecessary. A trolling if you will.
And also helpful, I hope, is that while we come from varied experiences and depths of wisdom, we are all relatively new to this device.
How would odd time signatures work with capture? Is the technology ready for it? How would divisions of 16 steps overlay? In other words, how would you manage the real estate? Like the push drum sequencer? Could you correct for your clip analysis back in live? How would you manage compound time signatures or changing time signatures? Per scene? What other groove adjustments would you include? What do you do with music that has loose time signature? Is the move the first thing you would reach for in such cases?
Maybe all folks need is a modifiable metronome and a record quantization that adjusts to time signature. Things like the Torso T1 have multiple note division and multiple page length sequences. As far as time signature, it is nonetheless agnostic.
The time signature argument has been clouded by presumptions, insult, provocation, and grasping theory. It’s important to remember that especially with such an accessible device we share this community with newcomers. There has been some condescension that is entirely unnecessary. A trolling if you will.
And also helpful, I hope, is that while we come from varied experiences and depths of wisdom, we are all relatively new to this device.
How would odd time signatures work with capture? Is the technology ready for it? How would divisions of 16 steps overlay? In other words, how would you manage the real estate? Like the push drum sequencer? Could you correct for your clip analysis back in live? How would you manage compound time signatures or changing time signatures? Per scene? What other groove adjustments would you include? What do you do with music that has loose time signature? Is the move the first thing you would reach for in such cases?
Maybe all folks need is a modifiable metronome and a record quantization that adjusts to time signature. Things like the Torso T1 have multiple note division and multiple page length sequences. As far as time signature, it is nonetheless agnostic.
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WillisBlackburn
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Re: Time Signatures
+1 to wanting real support for time signatures other than 4/4.
The first sample I loaded into my new Move was from a piece of music in 3/4 time. So right away it was like, ugh, how do I figure out a tempo and loop length that makes this work.
I'm imagining that in 3/4 time the four rightmost sequencer buttons are deactivated and in 5/4 time you use the right arrow button to access beats after the fourth one. Maybe it just moves the 16-step window over so the four rightmost buttons are the last beat in the measure. So you arrow twice to access the next measure.
The first sample I loaded into my new Move was from a piece of music in 3/4 time. So right away it was like, ugh, how do I figure out a tempo and loop length that makes this work.
I'm imagining that in 3/4 time the four rightmost sequencer buttons are deactivated and in 5/4 time you use the right arrow button to access beats after the fourth one. Maybe it just moves the 16-step window over so the four rightmost buttons are the last beat in the measure. So you arrow twice to access the next measure.