mixing ambient of chill with beatless intros using live

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maximum01
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mixing ambient of chill with beatless intros using live

Post by maximum01 » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:44 pm

here's one ive never managed to figure out.

if i'm mixing ambient or downtempo stuff sometime i beatmatch but often i don't want to.

for example i might be playing a dub track at 68bpm...then want to mix in a psybient track at 89 bpm which has a long beatless intro. in a chill mix the jump in bpm isnt jarring because of the long intros.

my only solution is to slowly change tempo in live but what i really want to do is disable warping for these tracks. trouble is toggling warp causes the audio to stutter briefly.

any solutions?

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Re: mixing ambient of chill with beatless intros using live

Post by 8O » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:53 pm

Maybe there's a different solution, but the stuttering sounds like a bug...
maximum01 wrote:trouble is toggling warp causes the audio to stutter briefly.
:? Does toggling warp on a clip that's not playing causes audio on all tracks to stutter? Does it still stutter when you set the audio buffer to a high value? What warp mode do you use i.e. does it still happen if your toggling between beats&none? What version of Live are you using?
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Re: mixing ambient of chill with beatless intros using live

Post by maximum01 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:07 pm

8O wrote:Maybe there's a different solution, but the stuttering sounds like a bug...
maximum01 wrote:trouble is toggling warp causes the audio to stutter briefly.
:? Does toggling warp on a clip that's not playing causes audio on all tracks to stutter? Does it still stutter when you set the audio buffer to a high value? What warp mode do you use i.e. does it still happen if your toggling between beats&none? What version of Live are you using?

using live 8.

yes it always jumps and stutters. also, to make this work i need to be able to toggle warping on/off on the currently playing track without the jump.

for instance i might want warping off to bring in a beatless intro track...then resume warping for the next mix.

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Re: mixing ambient of chill with beatless intros using live

Post by 8O » Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:20 pm

What should work ok is switching warp on and off when the global tempo matches the clip tempo - does that work for you without any glitches? If not, try on the latest 8.1.3 (keep your current version though, just in case).
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