arpeggiator timing issues

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lozoz
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arpeggiator timing issues

Post by lozoz » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:05 pm

i have an arpeggiator pattern that i like but as soon as i dis-arm the track record button it completely changes the pattern / quantization. any ideas why this might be and how i could get round it?

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Re: arpeggiator timing issues

Post by lozoz » Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:33 pm

bump bump... has anyone else had similar quirks with ableton arpeggiator? it's actually not the first time i've experienced this and still can't figure out a solution. thanks for checking.

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Re: arpeggiator timing issues

Post by kleine » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:08 pm

Hello,

Do you compensate your latency and do you have Delay Compensation turned on?
Please see also the manual chapter 32.3 "Live's MIDI Solutions".

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Christian

lozoz
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Re: arpeggiator timing issues

Post by lozoz » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:22 pm

hi christian, thanks for getting back to me. delay compensation is turned on and when i turn it off it alters the pattern in the same way that disarming the track does. i had a quick scan through the manual and it isn't any clearer.

i can upload some audio samples if that would make it clearer?

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Re: arpeggiator timing issues

Post by barstu » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:34 am

Damn glad I found this thread, was going to start a new one. I made the exact same discovery last night. I was wanting to 'play' an arp'd hook like one that I already had programmed down. After an hour or so of fiddling with all the arp nobs, gate, timing,offset, retrig onbeat or note etc, I realised that it was impossible to reproduce the same riff when your track is set to monitor in or armed auto.

The solution I cam up with is to automate a midi pitch shift on the same channel using a looping dummy clip. The hook I was after went up 3 octaves and down one in one bar, pretty easy to program. Now I get to play the notes and therefore reproduce the groove exactly (or as close as my ability will get it) and not limited to the 3 swings.

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Re: arpeggiator timing issues

Post by lozoz » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:00 pm

after a bit more investigation it seems that when i disarm the track the arp holds the notes as it would if the "hold" button was enabled. any idea why this would be?

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Re: arpeggiator timing issues

Post by Stevee00 » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:43 pm

I'm searching this forum with exactly the same problem that Iozoz describes in the last post. I have the Live arpeggiator in a track with both the hold button mapped to a button on a NanoKontrol. Works fine, except when I turn off the arp altogether, the arp keeps arping, like a ghost. Even turning off the whole rack doesn't stop it. Turning off the whole track seems to do the trick. Is this a bug in the arp?

Running Live Suite 8.x on a fast MBP.

Steve
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